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re: We were the only SEC basketball team to lose today
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:12 pm to tarzana
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:12 pm to tarzana
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Just hold your horses. LSU plays Stetson, UNO and MVSU before hitting the conference grind. Those three teams have Kenpoms in the 300's and should be a welcome tiramisu for the MBB Tigers.
I gotta say I'd rather us have scheduled it a bit differently - 3 terrible teams before getting into conference play in the best basketball conference in the country?
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:29 pm to Tiger Ugly
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3 terrible teams before getting into conference play
Exactly what this team needs, to build confidence. Texas just blasted UA-Pine Bluff last night.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Ugly
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I gotta say I'd rather us have scheduled it a bit differently - 3 terrible teams before getting into conference play in the best basketball conference in the country?
Perhaps. But in each of the last two seasons LSU has played weak competition in the two weeks before the start of SEC play and they have opened SEC play with wins in each of those seasons over good teams. There are not a lot of reasons 2+ years in to give McMahon the benefit of the doubt, but the lead in to SEC play seems to be one of them. It's often been the second week of SEC play where things start to fall off.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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McMahon did his team zero favors
... by losing both of the non-conference games on our schedule to teams with a pulse.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:23 pm to tarzana
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Exactly what this team needs, to build confidence.
I think of it a bit differently, playing teams that don't challenge you at all in any way shape or fashion, the 3 games before you begin to play teams that as good or in most cases this year better than you.....I see the downside of that as a bigger issue that whatever confidence you get from beating up on weak opposition.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:29 pm to P bean
quote:You lose the right to call anyone else an idiot if you're this much of an idiot.
jeckly and hide team
It's Jekyll and Hyde, idiot.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:33 pm to Louie T
AP poll has 13 sec teams in top 25 or receiving votes
Thats just insae
Thats just insae
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
This times 100000000000
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:25 pm to Alt26
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ut in each of the last two seasons LSU has played weak competition in the two weeks before the start of SEC play and they have opened SEC play with wins in each of those seasons over good teams.
I hear ya but I just don't see any benefit playing 3 teams that bad and all right in a row....none.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:52 pm to lsudave1
We didn't look that good, relied on the one-on-one ball too much.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:32 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:At full strength i would agree with you. But with Reed out we can use the games to give Chest and Collins more experience in the offense than they were expected to be. Robert Miller and possibly Boyde too.
I hear ya but I just don't see any benefit playing 3 teams that bad and all right in a row....none.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:56 pm to mmcgrath
There is nothign gained from playing literally the worst team in college basketball. Back in the day myself and 4 other dudes from the REC could go play against LSU and put up a similar if not better challenge than MS Valley State will. They lost 111-39 to Missouri. That's pathetic. There are high school teams that wouldn't lose that bad.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:05 pm to Alt26
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Ward had been a one-trick pony for LSU (spot up three point shooter). I'd make the argument the combination of Bailey and V. Miller at that position is a net positive for the team. You don't have the three point shooting, but you gain much more in just about ever other aspect.
The loss of Reed hurts because McMahon's teams have routinely been abysmal in the half-court offense. Reed as a guy who you could run sets for. Now, LSU doesn't really have that guy (though they are better defensively with Collins/Chest inside), which makes the halfcourt offense seemingly worse. LSU was already falling in the offense efficiency stats with Reed in. That's continuing at a quicker pace now. But I don't think Reed's loss takes them team from 10-11 SEC wins to 5-6. He's probably worth about 2-3 wins because there is the tradeoff of improved defense.
This is where I'm at. Reed hurts much, much more than ward. Vyc and Bailey are fine there.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:41 pm to TeddyPadillac
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McMahon did his team zero favors if we are a bubble team b/c of the horrible scheduling.
I absolutely hate playing teams that will finish in the 300s in the NET, but you need to wake up about scheduling. Southland, SWAC, MEAC type teams have to load up on Q1 & Q2 games because thats what funds their programs.
Currently LSU SOS is rated 9 out of 16 for SEC teams.
As of now, LSU has 14 Q1 games left on their schedule. SOS will not be an issue for any SEC teams.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:51 pm to LSUbasketballfan
quote:This year in particular we could have played the Little Sisters of the Poor for every OOC game. Surviving the SEC is everything this year. I like the team we have, but it is really thin right nnow. We do have some athletes who can cause issues for the best of teams. The veterans have to perform every night and the freshmen have to grow up fast.
As of now, LSU has 14 Q1 games left on their schedule. SOS will not be an issue for any SEC teams.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:20 pm to mmcgrath
Losing to SMU is not a death knell because they will have so many opportunities in SEC play to get good wins. The downside is that the loss reduces what was likely an already thin margin for error for this team in SEC play. Expecting 10 or more wins is a big ask. Not just for LSU. It could possibly be the difference between getting 8 SEC wins and in and get 8 and out.
You don’t waive the white flag. But now you probably have to win an additional game in conference that you probably could have absorbed with the SMU win.
You don’t waive the white flag. But now you probably have to win an additional game in conference that you probably could have absorbed with the SMU win.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:25 pm to R11
You misspelled baseball.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:32 pm to Alt26
quote:Nah. 8 wins in the SEC will be enough with an 11-2 OOC record. Unfortunately 8 wins this year will be incredibly difficult.
Losing to SMU is not a death knell because they will have so many opportunities in SEC play to get good wins. The downside is that the loss reduces what was likely an already thin margin for error for this team in SEC play. Expecting 10 or more wins is a big ask. Not just for LSU. It could possibly be the difference between getting 8 SEC wins and in and get 8 and out.
You don’t waive the white flag. But now you probably have to win an additional game in conference that you probably could have absorbed with the SMU win.
I highly doubt we would get in with 7 wins even with beating SMU or Pitt.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:36 pm to Tig04
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LSU has 3 quality wins
But how many more do you expect in the LOADED SEC?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:37 pm to tarzana
What part of the day was it the first year at 2-16 SEC high noon
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