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re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:21 pm to Anemone
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:21 pm to Anemone
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year, have no chronic musculoskeletal problems, and no problems remembering stuff. Football seems like a bad choice compared to an education from my standpoint.
I know plenty of college graduates who make <30K/Year
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:29 pm to paper tiger
You’re right
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:35 pm to paper tiger
I regret that I have only one downvote to give.
A student athlete only gets 4 years to play. Once he leaves, that's it, no more of the unrivaled experience that is top tier college sports. It's just different in the pros; much more of a grind and not quite that same passion.
Why give up 25% of that time; you can go be a pro for 15 years. You'll never get that year of college back. The degree is a factor but almost lagniappe, since that you can go back and get later.
A student athlete only gets 4 years to play. Once he leaves, that's it, no more of the unrivaled experience that is top tier college sports. It's just different in the pros; much more of a grind and not quite that same passion.
Why give up 25% of that time; you can go be a pro for 15 years. You'll never get that year of college back. The degree is a factor but almost lagniappe, since that you can go back and get later.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:42 pm to Anemone
You know what money can buy
1 more year of school
1 more year of school
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:49 pm to rbdallas
Is Guice half retarded or something?!
Let’s stop assuming we know this young man—and assuming we know that he couldn’t make a good life for himself without football.
Let’s stop assuming we know this young man—and assuming we know that he couldn’t make a good life for himself without football.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:57 pm to terriblegreen
In 3 years a kid can make a few million and finish his degree online. 250K a year is what 2.5 million over 10 years. Go pro make 2.5 million in the 3 years and finish the degree online.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:04 pm to paper tiger
Agree entirely. Go make the millions in the nfl, if it doesn’t work out, you made millions and can go back and get your degree by 30
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:10 pm to ScootiniTiger
quote:you know what can’t be taken away. Fournette 4 years 27 million 18 million signing bonus. Yes 4 years 27 million. Guice probably won’t sniff that much but if he gets half he would be stupid to stay.
Thank you Anemone. You can take ANYTHNG away from someone but their EDUCATION. You and I will make close to that amount in our lifetime of work if we chose,without the risk. Education first along with college life,then goals.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:50 pm to Anemone
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year
Decent middle-class income.
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have no chronic musculoskeletal problems, and no problems remembering stuff.
Probably because you are not old enough, but you will get there.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:33 am to Anemone
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year, have no chronic musculoskeletal problems, and no problems remembering stuff. Football seems like a bad choice compared to an education
You got downvoted at about 7 to 1. How can anyone disagree with this? Football is a horrible choice, even for people who make huge money at it. There is no mount of money that is worth suffering every day, and most of them do.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:38 am to paper tiger
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Ok, it will still take you 50 years to earn what Guice will make in 4 years. Not counting his endorsement deals of course. Lol.
But Guice will never have what the poster has - the ability to get out of bed in the morning with no pain, go hiking, walk around pain free at a festival - not to mention headaches and dementia.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:07 am to Penrod
I don't know him personally, but he seems to really love LSU and is considered by many to be one of our best backs ever. If he came back and was able to pull off a championship run he would become LEGENDARY. Maybe that is his train of thought.
From what I have read, he has a pretty plush lif and probably already has an insurance policy in place.
It is not always about money, I know plenty of rediculously wealthy people and they can be some of the most miserable people in the world.
He has a chance to etch his name in history books at a school that he obviously loves.
From what I have read, he has a pretty plush lif and probably already has an insurance policy in place.
It is not always about money, I know plenty of rediculously wealthy people and they can be some of the most miserable people in the world.
He has a chance to etch his name in history books at a school that he obviously loves.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:24 am to paper tiger
Legacy and your place in the history books can NEVER be taken away. You will FOREVER be remembered and you will be on TV in replays for the rest of your life (possibly Guice?). Plus you could earn a college degree and enjoy the college experience 1 more year! You can't take that away from ANYONE.
I understand the money argument but the older you get the more you realize money ain't everything. Sadly our society is an instant gratification one and EVERY kid runs for the greener pastures so to speak.
I have no problem with these kids taking the money and running off to the Not For Long. However, the chance for lasting legacy and immortality in the college football world is a one shot deal that EVERYONE dismisses like it's an after thought. Such is our society today. Would be nice to see just one top-tier athlete stay their senior year at LSU. That would be a SHOCK but a pleasant one that would put a smile on Tiger fans faces for a long time. Talk about leaving a lasting impression.... That's the best I got....
I understand the money argument but the older you get the more you realize money ain't everything. Sadly our society is an instant gratification one and EVERY kid runs for the greener pastures so to speak.
I have no problem with these kids taking the money and running off to the Not For Long. However, the chance for lasting legacy and immortality in the college football world is a one shot deal that EVERYONE dismisses like it's an after thought. Such is our society today. Would be nice to see just one top-tier athlete stay their senior year at LSU. That would be a SHOCK but a pleasant one that would put a smile on Tiger fans faces for a long time. Talk about leaving a lasting impression.... That's the best I got....
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:37 am to paper tiger
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In years past some people would praise kids for staying in school their senior year to get a degree. For players selected in the first four rounds that was and still is usually a dumb argument.
Yep, that's why it's foolish for anyone to think Guice will be back for his senior year. That and this has been his main dream since before his dad died when he was a boy.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:01 am to offshoretrash
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1st thru 3rd round picks are not your average NFL player.
OP was making the argument for NFL players getting a degree. Not just certain rounds.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:08 am to paper tiger
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The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
There have been many studies that show the average NFL career is roughly 3 years. So that 2 million over 4 years won't be there. They will make money early, but if something happens and they don't make it, they have something to fall back on. However, the stay or go argument has never been about arguing money from the NFL vs. outside the NFL. The argument has always been, if you stay another year, you may go from your current projected round to a higher round, which would equal more money.
Look at Dupre last year. If he stays another year, he would probably be getting drafted this year. Instead he declared early (projected as high as a 3rd rounder) and probably thought the 2 million over 4 years is worth it. Instead, he went in the 7th, and is struggling to make/keep a roster spot. One more year would've helped him.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:18 am to Anemone
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year, have no chronic musculoskeletal problems, and no problems remembering stuff. Football seems like a bad choice compared to an education from my standpoint.
Is that what a Sports Administration or Interdisciplinary Studies degree gets you nowadays? Every Junior who might come out early that I checked was majoring in one of those.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:38 am to paper tiger
NFL is only really life changing money if you're going in the first round. Yeah it's incredible to get that few million for the in average 3-4 years players are in the league, but what happens after? That money isn't going to last you the rest of your life.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:26 am to paper tiger
Being an educated man gives one the ability to be the best version of oneself. Money is one part of a fulfilling life. Shallow people use the doomsday scenario of injury to justify leaving when not ready.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:35 am to paper tiger
Statistics show 80% of NFL players are broke within a decade of leaving the football. Getting an education can never be viewed as a bad idea.
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