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Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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You got downvoted at about 7 to 1. How can anyone disagree with this? Football is a horrible choice, even for people who make huge money at it. There is no mount of money that is worth suffering every day, and most of them do.

Because the point of the post wasn't football, he just wanted to let everyone know how much money he makes


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jacquespene8
LSU Fan
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
3573 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
The argument for kids to stay another year is dumb all around. Not a single poster here would risk another year of college if there was millions right around the corner. Even a signing bonus and a 1 year contract is enough for any kid to come back and get an education later if wanted. Hell, he could pay is own way and not work.

It’s purely selfish on our part to want a guy to return. This and nothing more. I pray that each kid that has millions waiting around the corner will go ahead and claim it.

The Snickers folks put it best: “why wait?”


jacquespene8
LSU Fan
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
3573 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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The skinny of all this is enjoy the ride. These college years are the best years of your life. Don’t cheapen them or rush to end them. You don’t get em back.


Is this true of a kid who still lives in poverty and owes child support and has a broken immediate family?

Maybe people that are well-supported and free to choose their own path will enjoy those days, but some people are looking for a rescue boat, not memories.


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JakeFromStateFarm
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Member since Jun 2012
4438 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
Playing football for millions >>>>>>> playing football for free. The degree will be there for them if they want to come back and get it.


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ShortyRob
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Member since Oct 2008
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re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
There is no rational reason for a person who legitimately is a top 3 round pick to stay in college

In fact logically speaking it is completely indefensible


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Nuts4LSU
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Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25401 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year, have no chronic musculoskeletal problems, and no problems remembering stuff. Football seems like a bad choice compared to an education from my standpoint.


Did you have anything useful to add to the discussion, or did you just drop in to brag about your salary? And even in the ludicrous fantasy world in which the average starting salary for a college graduate is $250,000 a year, it would still take 48 years at that salary to earn the $12 million a first-rounder could expect to earn in four years in the NFL.


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paper tiger
LSU Fan
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
240 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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YOu assume the 3rd round pick is not going to get cut (which most of them do) and last more than 1 year in the NFL (which most of them don't). recalculate your theory based on 1 years earnings, not 4 years.


First of all, its extremely rare for a third round pick to get cut his first year in the NFL.

But assuming so, a third round pick average signing bonus is over 600k, in addition to a salary of 300k or more.

So even if cut in his first yr, a 3rd round pick will make about a million dollars.

An average engineering graduate from LSU starts out at about 50k. With raises and not counting the return one could get on investing a million, it would take an engineer 10 years or more to earn what the third round pick made in a year.

And its not like most LSU athletes angling for the draft were ever going to be engineers anyway.


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HogIslandDuckman
covington
Member since Nov 2015
391 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
It is unfathomable to me that in this day and age ANYONE could make the argument a 1-3 round pick should stay to continue his education in a major that is likely the equivalent difficulty to basket weaving...

If I were a coach I would tell them to go, make it as far as they can, and to always keep the program in mind down the line.


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TigerNE
LSU Fan
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
687 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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have no chronic musculoskeletal problems


Does that mean you have occasional musculoskeletal problems?


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ibleedprplngld
LSU Fan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
1650 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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I graduated from LSU and make $250,000 a year,


You know how i know you're full of shit?

No person making more than 100K a year boasts about it on a social forum. Fact.


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LSUStar
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Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
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re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
Well, it would be one thing if they were getting an education worth something, but I digress.


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LSUStar
LSU Fan
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
1266 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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When you factor in the fact that over half of first round picks are broke before their second year in the NFL you can’t tell me that 250 more touches in college isn’t worth the trade off of losing millions because of a lack of education.


Please show your work...


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lsucoonass
USA Fan
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
56592 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
You didn't mention your med school or residency before making that amount


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lsucoonass
USA Fan
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
56592 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
I don't mind these guys getting drafted early
But they need some type of training when it comes to hiring an agent that won't swindle then or learn some basics about contracts
This post was edited on 12/6 at 3:14 pm


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
6411 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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Money ain’t even everything. You realize this once you have something money can’t buy.
it's not like these players are bypassing college altogether. They'll have been here 3 years and are merely leaving a year early.

And while you're correct that money isn't everything, it's a necessary reality of life, especially for the players who come from poor backgrounds.

These players have a skill that an employer will pay huge amounts for, but their career is extremely time-limited and hyper-competitive.

It makes perfect sense for them to use their skill to start making money a year early. All rational people understand that. And this is coming from a guy who values education very highly and went all the way through, and then some.
This post was edited on 12/6 at 4:13 pm


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machismo64
LSU Fan
Birmingham, Al
Member since Dec 2011
73 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
Also there is the matter of what the football player is studying. Is it something that will pay or is it the easiest curriculum possible? If it is the latter, the degree isn't worth much anyway. Lots of bartenders in the French Quarter have degrees. Some even have good degrees... LINK


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
6411 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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Also there is the matter of what the football player is studying. Is it something that will pay or is it the easiest curriculum possible? If it is the latter, the degree isn't worth much anyway.
most LSU players major in Sports Administration. Easiest major possible, unfortunately.


GreatLakesTiger24
loLSU fan
Member since May 2012
29748 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree

it's retarded.

if your stock is high, you go to the nfl. if it doesn't work out for whatever reason, use a few of those millions of dollars you made to finish your degree. you can go back to school, you can't just go back to the nfl.


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GreatLakesTiger24
loLSU fan
Member since May 2012
29748 posts

re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
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most LSU players major in Sports Administration. Easiest major possible, unfortunately.

in addition to what i just said, this ^

most of their degrees are practically worthless anyways


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Tigerdev
LSU Fan
Member since Feb 2013
10250 posts
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re: The flawed argument to stay in school and get a degree
The only way a player should come back the last year is if:
A. He is poised to get a lot more camera time and has the opportunity to improve draft stock.

Or

B. He has no shot of being drafted at all.

When it comes to multi-year starters just forget about it.


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