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Sorry if Germans, but why is Kiffin the worst, but Sumrall and Chesney are saints?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:19 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:19 am
Objectively, Kiffin's treatment of Ole Miss was slightly better than Sumrall/Tulane and Chesney/James Madison. He exited sooner than they did...giving Ole Miss time to have a coach in place immediately.
Supposedly, Kiffin "misled his players" by recruiting them, by leaving AND he was disloyal to Ole Miss by not staying to the end of his commitment. Kiffin stayed at Ole Miss for six years...three times as long as Sumrall and Chesney stayed at their schools.
Kiffin's great sin was he wanted to coach his players through the playoff. So did Sumrall and Chesney...and they were allowed to do so. Kiffin and LSU were gracious enough to lend our OC to Ole Miss for the playoffs.
What could Kiffin have done differently? The NCAA calendar forced Kiffin, Sumrall, and Chesney to take the exact same actions to leave for better coaching opportunities.
Has anyone from LSU made a statement on behalf of our coach to point out how absurd it is to attack Kiffin for his exit from Ole Miss? Should they?
Supposedly, Kiffin "misled his players" by recruiting them, by leaving AND he was disloyal to Ole Miss by not staying to the end of his commitment. Kiffin stayed at Ole Miss for six years...three times as long as Sumrall and Chesney stayed at their schools.
Kiffin's great sin was he wanted to coach his players through the playoff. So did Sumrall and Chesney...and they were allowed to do so. Kiffin and LSU were gracious enough to lend our OC to Ole Miss for the playoffs.
What could Kiffin have done differently? The NCAA calendar forced Kiffin, Sumrall, and Chesney to take the exact same actions to leave for better coaching opportunities.
Has anyone from LSU made a statement on behalf of our coach to point out how absurd it is to attack Kiffin for his exit from Ole Miss? Should they?
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 7:20 am
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:21 am to IvoryBillMatt
The best you can do is just ignore the noise
we got the coach we wanted and beyond that, no one should care what the media or other fanbases are thinking about the move or the timing of it etc.
everything has been said, over and over....
Just move on!
we got the coach we wanted and beyond that, no one should care what the media or other fanbases are thinking about the move or the timing of it etc.
everything has been said, over and over....
Just move on!
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:27 am to ApexTiger
The difference boils down to three letters- LSU!
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:31 am to IvoryBillMatt
Kiffin lied throughout the process and is still lying today. /thread
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
1. because Ole Miss has actually has a chance to win
2. he is moving within the SEC
3. he has been a polarizing media figure for 20years now.
2. he is moving within the SEC
3. he has been a polarizing media figure for 20years now.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:34 am to ApexTiger
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everything has been said, over and over....
Maybe, I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone from LSU defend our coach by pointing out he was singled out for doing what ANY coach in this situation would have to do.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:35 am to IvoryBillMatt
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What could Kiffin have done differently
Spurned us and stayed at Ole Miss. Nothing short of this would have made them happy.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:39 am to LSUDonMCO
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The difference boils down to three letters- LSU!
I think so as well...just like the treatment of Kelly leaving media darling Notre Dame for lowly LSU instead of for another media darling such as USC.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:39 am to Lester Earl
And
4. shite media blatant hypocrisy
4. shite media blatant hypocrisy
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:44 am to IvoryBillMatt
They are all scared of LSU, and what might be once Lane comes here and makes it a powerhouse.
They scared..period
They scared..period
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:49 am to Islandboy777
Scared of what?
It’s because Kiffin has a nomadic reputation and never really leaves anywhere on good terms is going to a “rival” program in the middle of a playoff run. Nothing more/nothing less it’s not some big conspiracy because it’s LSU. They would be doing the same bitching had he gone to Auburn.
It’s because Kiffin has a nomadic reputation and never really leaves anywhere on good terms is going to a “rival” program in the middle of a playoff run. Nothing more/nothing less it’s not some big conspiracy because it’s LSU. They would be doing the same bitching had he gone to Auburn.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:52 am to IvoryBillMatt
It doesn’t matter because Kiffin is now…
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
Everyone knows Kiffin. Not nearly as many fans know Sumrall or Chesney. Media can talk about Kiffin, and their listeners know who they are talking about. Program managers don't want the talent to talk about people or programs that lack interest. Everyone knows Kiffin.
Kiffin has a history of dramatic departures: Raiders, Tennessee, USC, Alabama. Kiffin is known as a black hat. Media can say ugly things about Kiffin, and their listeners will generally nod in agreement.
Talking about Kiffin allows media to get passionate, get on their high horse, shout from the moral high ground, and generally get excited and raise their voice. That kind of energy generally makes for good programming.
Paul Finebaum has had it out for Kiffin at least since Kiffin left Tennessee.
Kiffin has a history of dramatic departures: Raiders, Tennessee, USC, Alabama. Kiffin is known as a black hat. Media can say ugly things about Kiffin, and their listeners will generally nod in agreement.
Talking about Kiffin allows media to get passionate, get on their high horse, shout from the moral high ground, and generally get excited and raise their voice. That kind of energy generally makes for good programming.
Paul Finebaum has had it out for Kiffin at least since Kiffin left Tennessee.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:10 am to Lester Earl
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1. because Ole Miss has actually has a chance to win
2. he is moving within the SEC
3. he has been a polarizing media figure for 20years now.
Don’t disagree with any of those point and they are the likely reasons for the unequal treatment of Kiffin; however, they are all emotional arguments, not intellectual arguments. Intellectually, no one can argue why Kiffin’s departure is any different than the other two.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 8:11 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:15 am to IvoryBillMatt
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The NCAA calendar forced Kiffin, Sumrall, and Chesney to take the exact same actions to leave for better coaching opportunities.
There's the answer. I believe Nick Saban said this during an interview recently. I don't like the way things are now, but university athletic programs and coaches are compelled to do this. Changing the signing and portal dates would help.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:20 am to KC Tiger
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Intellectually, no one can argue why Kiffin’s departure is any different than the other two.
I’m just curious, but do you think all three are leaving their situations under the same pretense?
We aren’t splitting atoms here. While it’s a bit unprecedented, we aren’t splitting atoms here.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:26 am to LSUDonMCO
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The difference boils down to three letters- LSU!
No. The difference is the perceived nearness of Ole Miss to LSU in terms of quality of the programs. Everyone understands that the coach of Tulane is using it as a steppingstone. Ole Miss is sort of a bubble team in that regard. It’s not quite an end destination, but it’s not quite a stepping stone. Plus, Kiffin went to one of Ole Miss’ biggest rivals and an in-conference school.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:30 am to IvoryBillMatt
Im so glad Notre Lame acted like spoled children. Finally don't have to hear about Lane being a pos all morning on every talk show.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:31 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Kiffin's great sin was he wanted to coach his players through the playoff. So did Sumrall and Chesney...and they were allowed to do so
Booger (at least I think it was him) was the only one to touch on this.
the huge difference between those guys and Kiffin:
those guys are moving from G5 to P4 jobs. For the most part, the schools they are going to aren't recruiting the same kids as the schools they are leaving.
Kiffin is leaving for a rival. A school in same conference that will go after some of the same kids. And the last thing Ole Miss wants is for him to be in the building while working for the enemy. And then have their playoff game basically be an infomercial for their rival's coach during their playoff run.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:31 am to IvoryBillMatt
Couldnt care less. Lets win.
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