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re: So basically, from now on, every kid who can't crack the starting lineup will transfer.

Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:47 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:47 am to
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So stop watching it. If it causes you this much angst, just give it up.

I still watch, but my emotional attachment to LSU (and college football in general) is WAY down from just a few years ago. And I've been a college football lover for over 50 years.


I get that, though it has not wavered for me. The few years part is probably related to 2019 for a lot of folks. LSU was on top of the world.

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Of course we can stop watching, but we'd instead prefer the game we've loved to be fixed.



The game itself hasn't changed due to the portal, just player location and the effect that movement has on continuity.

I think some of it, and I do not mean to speak for you so do not take it as such, is that we want the players to love the logo as much as we do and think they used to. I am not sure that they did as a whole though some did and still do. The reality is probably more that the lower-ranked athletes and walk-ons were the ones who were fans like we were from the get-go and many of the guys who parlayed LSU into a lucrative pro career probably got there after the fact. The current situation just flies it in our faces and that can be offputting.

I look at guys like Josh Williams and think we do still have players who love LSU as much as we do.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
7968 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:49 am to
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Look at the parody in the SEC this year.


Parity, not parody.

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32033 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:02 am to
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If they can’t enforce those rules, it’s going to eventually crash and burn then. NIL will cause ticket prices to skyrocket over time and less people will attend and people will get tired of all the transfer madness and just quit watching. Then there would possibly be changes once the profits for the big dogs gets drastically reduced.


You aren't wrong.

In VERY general, two things have to happen:

1. It has to be accepted that, at minimum, college football (and men's basketball) are NOT scholastic extracurriculars with "amateur" athletes. They are multi-million/billion entertainment BUSINESSES and the players are professionals/employees within those businesses. This isn't the 1960's where it costs $3.00 to attend the games, few games were on TV, and the schools really were just happy to break even on the sports or, perhaps, make a nominal profit.

2. Players (future players) have to be willing to acknowledge the current marketplace is not sustainable long term. The schools, starting with the mid-majors and lower levels first, will begin getting out of the (at least) football business because it will become too cost prohibitive. That will eventually trickle up. Yes, the players have a ton of leverage now. The trump card for the schools/conferences is simply going out of business. That eliminates the marketplace because there is no other lucrative marketplace for the business of college football/basketball. If your options are negotiate regulations of the marketplace and accept more structured rules/salaries or earn nothing because there is no marketplace for college football, you have incentive to come to the table. Unfortunately, the new massive TV deals that have just kicked in will keep the schools from going out of the football/basketball season any time soon.

There is little demand for "minor league" football. People will fill a 100k seat stadium to watch LSU vs Alabama because of the 100+ years of goodwill built into those brands. Change that to the Baton Rouge Tigers v Tuscaloosa Crimson Tide and attendance/demand quickly plummets. It will be almost as lowly attended as minor league baseball.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:03 am to
It would benefit all of them to go in the portal, every single one.

Its just an open market. Find better offers or withdraw.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18917 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:23 am to
I mean, LSU got two Heisman winning QBs from the transfer portal.

It works both ways. If you don't like your job, nothing is stopping you from getting a new one.

There is nothing that stops a coach from changing teams or leaving.

I think there could be an argument that the first transfer has no restrictions, but a supplemental transfer without graduating could require a year to sit out?
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
15970 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:30 am to
This thread is why we should have a special appreciation for a player like Nuss.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
4102 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:31 am to
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. I have less of a problem paying player than I do with the transfer rules.



^^^
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:32 am to
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Parity, not parody
You’re correct that he meant parity, but both things were true this year.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107271 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:32 am to
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Look at the parody in the SEC this year.


Indeed.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
4102 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:36 am to
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It's good and bad. Look at the parody in the SEC this year.


LSU losing to aTm and UF was a tragedy and not so much a parody. That said, I think you may have meant parity
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84693 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:41 am to
You’re allowing 18 year old kids to participate in unrestricted free agency.

That was never going to end in anything BUT unmitigated disaster.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3946 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
It clearly affects the team chemistry and quality of play in football. I think it's less of a problem in baseball and basketball.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9719 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:13 pm to
Uh, what did you think was going to happen?
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
7968 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:33 pm to
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You’re correct that he meant parity, but both things were true this year.


Yeah, I think you might be right.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5643 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:39 pm to
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The whole system is corrupt. Burn it all down. I don't need LSU football in my life any longer.


I haven’t given up on my LSU fandom. However this last year was a lot easier watching after losing most of my interest in the program. It is just like the NFL. I can see where raising NIL money will become more difficult as fans lose interest.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19128 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:46 pm to
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I mean, LSU got two Heisman winning QBs from the transfer portal.
yes, but Burrow and Daniels only transferred once (and both were grad transfers).

Both played 4 years (actually Daniels played 5 years due to Covid).

What Burrow and Daniels did via the portal was just fine - nothing like the nonsense we're seeing today.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82735 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:50 pm to
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this last year was a lot easier watching after losing most of my interest in the program.


there's an upside to all of these hideous alternate uniforms, makes it an easier transition because they don't even look like LSU anymore
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8263 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:02 pm to
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If they can transfer to a team where they get to be a starter earlier then good for them.



Then your garbage arse shouldn’t have committed to a school you knew you couldn’t play for
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8263 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:04 pm to
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The game itself hasn't changed due to the portal,



Fentanyl seems to be just as bad I see
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
18335 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:07 pm to
My problem is when someone on here lists a potential transfer prospect, I go to Google the guy and it pulls up pictures/video of the guy playing at 2 or 3 colleges already and he's in the portal again. Nah bro, you made a bad choice of school twice already, stay where youre at or give up football.
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