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re: Serious ? for u Xs+Os guys out there. What exactly did Joe Brady do that worked so well?!?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:36 am to TigerFan244
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:36 am to TigerFan244
I wish he still worked here as the OC.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:37 am to eltigre2
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LSU ran an RPO offense where you had five potential targets. The QB reads the position of a safety or a LB and immediately knows the hot receiver and starts his rad after the snap there.
A hundred teams did/do that. The strategy had little to do with it. After we stomped a mudhole in Georgia, they asked Kirby why they didn't run LSU's routes. He said Georgia had every route LSU did, they just didn't execute them like LSU.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:38 am to MrSavage
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He ran easy to execute schemes that would often present mismatches and space and Joe was aboe to identify and capitalize on with our elite WR talent
Both Jefferson and Chase were also allowed to run option routes and Burrow was in sync with his WRs. If the defense was lined up a certain way the WR knew were he was going and so was Joe. Basically just run to were the defense is not. That is next level stuff. And it is actually some of the stuff Mississippi State with Will Rogers does but just does not have the talent LSU had/has. It takes a lot of practice and time spent together to perfect it. Also Jefferson and Chase were just better than every DB they faced.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:39 am to TigerFan244
We had plus matchups in literally facet of the game
If you bracket coverage Chase you leave Jefferson 1-1.
If you bracket coverage Jefferson you leave Chase 1-1.
If you bracket them both Terrace Marshall was pretty good too. Or Burrow would take off and pick up big yards.
Clyde could run inside and outside plus he’s a good pass blocker so we never had to take him out and tip our hand. If you don’t sub in and out there are no tendencies the defense can analyze and make you predictable.
Even if you play perfect defense Burrow can still run around and make something happen.
There just was no defense you can run that can stop all of it.
If you bracket coverage Chase you leave Jefferson 1-1.
If you bracket coverage Jefferson you leave Chase 1-1.
If you bracket them both Terrace Marshall was pretty good too. Or Burrow would take off and pick up big yards.
Clyde could run inside and outside plus he’s a good pass blocker so we never had to take him out and tip our hand. If you don’t sub in and out there are no tendencies the defense can analyze and make you predictable.
Even if you play perfect defense Burrow can still run around and make something happen.
There just was no defense you can run that can stop all of it.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:40 am to GumboPot
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Both Jefferson and Chase were also allowed to run option routes and Burrow was in sync with his WRs. If the defense was lined up a certain way the WR knew were he was going and so was Joe. Basically just run to were the defense is not.
Yes
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. That is next level stuff. A
No. It's not even new to the SEC. That's been in the SEC since Kentucky in the late 90s
The run and shoot had option routes in the 80s
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:41 am to Sam1
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He had Burrow is first, but had really good route combinations
On three quarters of Chase's receptions he was blanketed. So what good were the route combinations? Then, Chase would deliver a forearm shiver, and the DB would stumble to the ground.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
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We had plus matchups in literally facet of the game
If you bracket coverage Chase you leave Jefferson 1-1.
If you bracket coverage Jefferson you leave Chase 1-1.
If you bracket them both Terrace Marshall was pretty good too. Or Burrow would take off and pick up big yards.
Clyde could run inside and outside plus he’s a good pass blocker so we never had to take him out and tip our hand. If you don’t sub in and out there are no tendencies the defense can analyze.
Even if you play perfect defense Burrow can still run around and make something happen.
There just was no defense you can run that can stop all of it.
The key her is recognition and Burrow was very good at recognizing the weak spot in the defense.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:43 am to TigerFan244
Had Lloyd Cushenberry snap the ball to Joe Burrow and either hand it to CEH or throw it to Chase/Jefferson, lol.
Seriously, commitment to pushing the ball was important, but execution was so good that as time goes by, I tend to think that was the biggest factor for his success.
Seriously, commitment to pushing the ball was important, but execution was so good that as time goes by, I tend to think that was the biggest factor for his success.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:46 am to GumboPot
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The key her is recognition and Burrow was very good at recognizing the weak spot in the defense
Working in Brady’s system helped him learn what to recognize easily.
The Buffalo Bills hired him quick to work with Josh Allen. The NFL still thinks Brady is the man.
Dummies on tigerdroppings think the talent made Brady when it was Brady who made their talent shine with his system.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:48 am to TigerFan244
Had several players with high football IQ and exceptional talent as well.
Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, Marshall, Moss, Clyde, TDP, McMath….
Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, Marshall, Moss, Clyde, TDP, McMath….
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:48 am to El Tigre Grande
quote:Ensminger had all that too in 2018.
Had arguably, the greatest college quarterback ever combined with a filthy receiving corps.
The result was far different.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
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We had plus matchups in literally facet of the game
If you bracket coverage Chase you leave Jefferson 1-1.
If you bracket coverage Jefferson you leave Chase 1-1.
If you bracket them both Terrace Marshall was pretty good too. Or Burrow would take off and pick up big yards.
Clyde could run inside and outside plus he’s a good pass blocker so we never had to take him out and tip our hand. If you don’t sub in and out there are no tendencies the defense can analyze and make you predictable.
Even if you play perfect defense Burrow can still run around and make something happen.
There just was no defense you can run that can stop all of it.
If you gave 2019 LSU an above-average NFL OL, that exact team/scheme could have competed in the NFL
Just absurd talent
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:55 am to atltiger6487
rewatch Clyde's highlights from the Bama game.
LINK
He had like 10 first down/TD plays, and the vast majority of them he should have been tackled before the First/TD, but he's just better than the guys trying to tackle him.
You call a run to the left twice in that game and have a LB about to kill Clyde behind the line of scrimmage, and he spins out of it and runs for a 1st/TD.
He caught several balls in the flat, and then bulldozed over guys to get the extra 5-6 yards to get a 1st/TD.
and that's just Clyde in one game. You can show the same from Jefferson and Chase.
You have to really suck as a coach to not be able to win when you have pro bowl players all over the field playing in college.
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He had like 10 first down/TD plays, and the vast majority of them he should have been tackled before the First/TD, but he's just better than the guys trying to tackle him.
You call a run to the left twice in that game and have a LB about to kill Clyde behind the line of scrimmage, and he spins out of it and runs for a 1st/TD.
He caught several balls in the flat, and then bulldozed over guys to get the extra 5-6 yards to get a 1st/TD.
and that's just Clyde in one game. You can show the same from Jefferson and Chase.
You have to really suck as a coach to not be able to win when you have pro bowl players all over the field playing in college.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:56 am to TigerFan244
2019 didn’t have some new aged invent the wheel type offense. They had a top NFL quarterback and two top NFL wide receivers along with another NFL wide receiver, a NFL running back and a very good college tight end.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:59 am to GumboPot
quote:This is the key. Option routes allow adjustments that the defense can’t account for. The QB and the WRs have to be on the same page but when they are, it’s nearly impossible to stop. You have to confuse the offense in order to truly be effective as a defense.
Both Jefferson and Chase were also allowed to run option routes and Burrow was in sync with his WRs. If the defense was lined up a certain way the WR knew were he was going and so was Joe. Basically just run to were the defense is not. That is next level stuff.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:02 am to TigerFan244
Nothing special. He brought the saints passing schemes and married it to what lsu was already doing and he and E blended them together
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:04 am to TigerFan244
Got the players in space, put in a lot of quick throws that allowed the offensive line to not have to protect for long, benefited from having one of the most talented, if not the most talented, offensive group ever for college football.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:08 am to TigerFan244
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Yes. . . he had the talent but it couldn't be JUST that.
It all started and ended with, frankly, Joe Burrow. He made decisions quickly, usually the right ones, and the system took advantage of that.
Pressure the defense to play perfectly. If there was a breakdown in pass protection, Joe stole plays at key points in big games. Otherwise, make them choose between stopping Chase for the big plays or trying to limit everything else and hope for the best.
If you're only rushing 4 guys (and UGA even tried 3), then you're giving Joe Burrow unlimited time to find the open man or make something happen with his feet. If you rush 5 or 6, you're forcing the guys on the back end to play nearly perfect football.
It only works when your skill players are all at or above the level of the competition AND you execute your gameplan at a high level.
It was a perfect storm: Right guy, with the right plan in the right place/time with the right QB.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:10 am to tjohn deaux
Don’t forget about Terrance Marshall. LSU had the greatest College WR corps ever assembled to go with the greatest QB. I know Jefferson and Chase are lighting up the NFL but Marshall was a mismatch nightmare as the 3rd option on that stacked team
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:16 am to TigerFan244
Look at 2018 vs 2019. One of the biggest differences I remember was guys not dropping passes anymore. I think that summer of 10,000 passes was not just PR. Justin Jefferson, in particular, dropped a lot of balls in 2018 by my recollection. Not so many in 2019.
Plus he was an aggressive play caller helping to offset Ensminger's more conservative approach. The two together helps keep the offense in the sweet spot. E helped Brady to not be reckless.
And he had the horses.
Perfect storm really.
Plus he was an aggressive play caller helping to offset Ensminger's more conservative approach. The two together helps keep the offense in the sweet spot. E helped Brady to not be reckless.
And he had the horses.
Perfect storm really.
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