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re: Schloss reported to be getting $3m+ per at Texas. JJ at $1.65m. This will re set market
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:36 am to Datsmoneydude
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:36 am to Datsmoneydude
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Jay prolly tell them use the money to get grahovac and LaViolette. Titles are more important
I guarantee you the money is still important.
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:37 am to ell_13
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This was the case in the early 2000s but not anymore. Plenty of schools are making money off of baseball these days.
I would like some numbers to back that up. Last I saw there were like 6-7, tops.
I'm talking about actually turning a profit and not some monkey math that allocates individual sport costs across an athletic department like they do to justify women's sports.
20 years ago it was basically LSU and Miss State I think, then Ole Miss and Arkansas, and now a few others.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:40 am to CatfishJohn
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I would like some numbers to back that up. Last I saw there were like 6-7, tops.
Yup. Baseball by and large is a $$ pit for 95% of schools.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:58 am to Covingtontiger77
These numbers always get thrown around way too early.
IT would be beyond stupid for Texas to pay $3M /yr for a baseball coach when the current highest paid one under $2M/yr. They could have easily gotten Schloss for like $2.1-$2.2 probably, he was at $1.46M this year at A&M.
If they are giving him $3M/yr they are throwing away money and the pressure will be instant on him to deliver results. No title in 3-4 years? Gotta get rid of him.
IT would be beyond stupid for Texas to pay $3M /yr for a baseball coach when the current highest paid one under $2M/yr. They could have easily gotten Schloss for like $2.1-$2.2 probably, he was at $1.46M this year at A&M.
If they are giving him $3M/yr they are throwing away money and the pressure will be instant on him to deliver results. No title in 3-4 years? Gotta get rid of him.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:01 am to Covingtontiger77
A&M about to spend 4 million on their new coach just to one up Texas
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:06 am to Covingtontiger77
We will see, I am sure Texas is already paying A&M the 2.7 Million to pay out his buyout for leaving for an in-state school.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:07 am to Tifway419
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There’s only a few schools that would even consider that amount, so unlikely it alters the market that much.
It may not alter it immediately, but it will definitely affect it after next season. Let's say LSU or Tennessee win the CWS next year and either Jay or Vitello get their 2nd NC while Schloss still has none. They may not get $3 million, but they would both be bumped up into the $2 million plus range. Maybe a handful of other guys would get a similar bump.
This Schloss deal isn't gonna just give automatic raises to everybody across the country, but it will eventually have a trickle down effect. 5 years from now, $2 million plus will be pretty standard across the top programs in the country. Hell, A&M may wind up ponying up over $2 million + to get whoever they wind up getting. I think the timing might wind up hurting them, and they may have to "settle," but they're gonna take a few big swings before that.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:12 am to bradygolf98
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Texas over here backing up the brinks truck for a coach that hasn't won anything of significance.
Don’t bet against Schloss.
I hear that he’s up for an Oscar for that performance Monday night.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:16 am to Datsmoneydude
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Jay prolly tell them use the money to get grahovac and LaViolette. Titles are more important
or tell them to spend the money improving the Box....
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:17 am to JimTiger72
I wouldn't be surprised though. Why would he leave a school that he just lost game 3 in the national championship by a single point? It's not like aTm can't afford to make him the highest paid college baseball coach in America. So it has to be a stupid high offer for him to dip that aTm did feel was worth it.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:18 am to doubleb
Texas being Texas. They have had a negative effect on every conference that they have been in. Get ready for the Texas overly inflated vision of themselves to create problems in the SEC 
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:29 am to Covingtontiger77
How many coaches can Texas hire. No one else was paying near that amount. Just because they over paid doesn't mean everyone else has to.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:31 am to Covingtontiger77
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Powers that be at LSU about to pony up big time.
That would be on brand....and completely asinine.
As it stands, there are very few programs that would pay a baseball coach what LSU is paying Jay NOW. And he's not going to find a program anywhere in America where the interest/support is greater than LSU. There may be a few that come close to matching it. But none exceed it.
In other words, it would be very hard for Jay to truly leverage LSU because there are very few jobs that could legitimately match it. If he finds one, then we can talk. But just reflexively giving a raise/extension when there is really no strong reason to do so is the way ADs always find themselves in a bad spot if the results don't match.
To that end, Jay has been good at LSU. In no way, shape, or form am I arguing he should be on the hot seat. But it's not like he has dominated the SEC in his three years. Vitello's last 3 seasons: SR, CWS, NC. Schloss's last 3 seasons: CWS, regionals, CWS (finals). Johnson: regional, NC, regional.
Let's at least see how next season goes before running to the lawyer's office to draft a new contract. If come this time next year LSU is celebrating an 8th NC then all bets are off. But just because Texas was desperate doesn't mean LSU has to react in kind right now.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:31 am to Covingtontiger77
There are only a handful of schools that can afford stratospheric coaching salaries. Two of them I happen to hate - Texas and Texas A&M.
There may be 5 schools who have the kind of money for athletics as they do. They can’t hire every coach just one at a time. I’m not saying LSU doesn’t need to be competitive in coaches pay, but we don’t need to be the highest. In fact, we can’t be and still make facilities improvements and what not.
Besides, JJ will coach just as hard for $1 as $5mm.
There may be 5 schools who have the kind of money for athletics as they do. They can’t hire every coach just one at a time. I’m not saying LSU doesn’t need to be competitive in coaches pay, but we don’t need to be the highest. In fact, we can’t be and still make facilities improvements and what not.
Besides, JJ will coach just as hard for $1 as $5mm.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:33 am to thunderbird1100
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They could have easily gotten Schloss for like $2.1-$2.2 probably,
You don't know that. He'd already built A&M into a top program in the country and was ready to compete annually. Texas is a rebuild. And the cost of living in Austin in much higher than College Station. I'm not sure he automatically uproots his family again for the 2nd time in 3 years, asks his staff to do the same, and leaves what he'd built for just an extra $600k. It may not be $3 million, but I bet it's closer to that than $2.1. He had way more leverage than that.
And UT has the money, maybe they overpaid as some sort of statement to the rest of the SEC as they enter for the 1st year. Maybe they did want to reset the market to hurt other programs who are committed to winning, but don't have the unlimited funds they do. You may be right, I just think it's naive to just cavalierly say "they could have easily gotten him for $2.1 or $2.2" like an extra $600-$700k was some sort of Godfather deal that anyone would have left for. I'm sure they'd have paid Jay or Vitello that amount, but neither would have left for it. Granted, they don't have the same relationship with the UT AD.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:39 am to Covingtontiger77
LSU Baseball is already spending more than it's making. I'm not sure if raising JJ's salary by a couple mil is worth going deeper in the hole
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:43 am to Covingtontiger77
Vitello would come for $2.1 mil.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:43 am to Covingtontiger77
Ridiculous. JJ makes plenty; just because desperate team has to over compensate a coach to come doesn’t translate that other coaches such as JJ are being underpaid.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:43 am to Hot Carl
Apparently the A&M staff was spending their time in Omaha recruiting to Texas using burner phones.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:44 am to Datsmoneydude
Lmfao you for real? He will 10 out of 10 take the money.
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