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re: Richard Lipsey dropping bombs on LSU leadership
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:57 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:57 am to Lester Earl
I’ve never met a posteron any message board that pushes propaganda as much as you.
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:06 am to Sir Fury
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I’ve never met a posteron any message board that pushes propaganda as much as you.
He’s a troll bro. Although I will say, 2 of my close friends who are huge LSU fans got into an argument this past weekend because they were blaming WW for this situation. So there are definitely frickin idiots out there who think Alleva and F King Alexander have acted appropriately.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:10 am to Triple Bogey
You think Will Wade has handled this appropriately?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:12 am to Lester Earl
Will is protecting Will.... if he was innocent, he'd be screaming it from the mountain top. There's no way to explain those tapes.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:12 am to Lester Earl
What do you think he should have done differently?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:13 am to LSU$$$
I mean it sounds like the board is a part of the problem as well. no one is innocent it seems
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:15 am to UpToPar
Where do you want me to start ?
Let’s start with not directly dealing with Christian Dawkins himself
Let’s start with not directly dealing with Christian Dawkins himself
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:15 am to Lester Earl
quote:I don't think anyone with the exception of Wade's lawyers have. Wade, LSU admin, LSU compliance, LSU BoS... none of them.
You think Will Wade has handled this appropriately?
As evidence of that I present the only entity that looks "good", so far (I think that will end soon) is the NCAA.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:17 am to Lester Earl
Nice thread derail attempt.
Back to the subject of the proposed removal of Alleva and Alexander.
Back to the subject of the proposed removal of Alleva and Alexander.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:23 am to LSU$$$
This will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm going to say it anyways.
The idea that the president of the university should be evaluated based on the success of athletic programs is deeply flawed. Same goes for the idea that an athletic donor, no matter how important, should have any influence on the selection or dismissal of a university president.
The president's job is to run the entire university, not just the sports teams. You want to fire Alexander? OK -- talk about how our academic rankings haven't improved, or how our grant money hasn't increased. Don't talk about the fricking athletics programs.
Sports is peripheral to the central mission of a public university, i.e. public universities do not exist to play sports, they exist to educate the public and the people of the state with the aim of creating economic opportunity and mobility.
The idea that the president of the university should be evaluated based on the success of athletic programs is deeply flawed. Same goes for the idea that an athletic donor, no matter how important, should have any influence on the selection or dismissal of a university president.
The president's job is to run the entire university, not just the sports teams. You want to fire Alexander? OK -- talk about how our academic rankings haven't improved, or how our grant money hasn't increased. Don't talk about the fricking athletics programs.
Sports is peripheral to the central mission of a public university, i.e. public universities do not exist to play sports, they exist to educate the public and the people of the state with the aim of creating economic opportunity and mobility.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:27 am to Lester Earl
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Where do you want me to start ?
Let’s start with not directly dealing with Christian Dawkins himself
Oh, I thought you were talking about how he's handled the allegations. Of course he shouldn't have been on the phone with Dawkins. I don't think anybody disagrees with that.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:30 am to Lester Earl
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which has been handled correctly
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:30 am to TxTiger82
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The idea that the president of the university should be evaluated based on the success of athletic programs is deeply flawed. Same goes for the idea that an athletic donor, no matter how important, should have any influence on the selection or dismissal of a university president.
I guess you didn't read the article by Lipsey.
The first two sentences of the article addresses your very point and sets the tone for the entire piece:
quote:
It’s unfortunate that the focus on leadership performance at LSU often only occurs regarding athletics. We must get beyond the current controversy in athletics to see the real problem at LSU.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:31 am to Lester Earl
quote:First off fool, that is two things.
Exactly. He's 80 years old. He knows one thing, and that is how to make money, and who he needs to be in power to make more money.
Second, of this man who you claim "knows one thing", you say . . . "Hey i agree with a lot of his points."
Are you senile?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:32 am to tiger81
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Will is protecting Will.... if he was innocent, he'd be screaming it from the mountain top. There's no way to explain those tapes.
Not while he's on the witness list of an active FBI trial. Any lawyer would advise their client to stfu.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:40 am to tiger81
quote:Yet Smart is reinstated.
There's no way to explain those tapes.
If "there's no way to explain those tapes," then Smart would have no route back on the team. It's quite a conundrum.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:53 am to UpToPar
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Oh, I thought you were talking about how he's handled the allegations. Of course he shouldn't have been on the phone with Dawkins. I don't think anybody disagrees with that.
He's handled the allegations pretty cleanly, outside of his statement about how he should be able to coach again. He's used the trial to his advantage, which anyone in his situation would do.
The one big hangup is him not meeting with LSU. But fans somehow think he can just skip that step. So when I ask if you think he has handled it appropriately, that is the basis of that.
All of this falls on him. He is the one on tape, he is the one that needs to provide the explanation.
I understand people like Lipsey being upset with Allevea and Alexander over past instances. I thought Alleva should have been canned after he botched the Les Miles firing. This event has obviously triggered not just him, but a lot of LSU fans, which is just wrong. For that to happen, you have to lack situational awareness. The trigger to them losing their job is based on the Coach's misconducts? wut? So be it, but im not spouting that off to anyone in public for fear of embarrassment
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:56 am to NC_Tigah
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Yet Smart is reinstated. If "there's no way to explain those tapes," then Smart would have no route back on the team. It's quite a conundrum.
THIS. It makes too much sense to workout though
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:58 am to TxTiger82
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The president's job is to run the entire university, not just the sports teams. You want to fire Alexander? OK -- talk about how our academic rankings haven't improved, or how our grant money hasn't increased. Don't talk about the fricking athletics programs.
Sports is peripheral to the central mission of a public university, i.e. public universities do not exist to play sports, they exist to educate the public and the people of the state with the aim of creating economic opportunity and mobility.
True, but this hasn't improved either. We switched to holistic admissions to increase amount of students and tuition because LA students are going out of state, or going to LSU and immediately leaving to work out of state. Our rankings are not good compared to other state flagships
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:10 am to TxTiger82
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The idea that the president of the university should be evaluated based on the success of athletic programs is deeply flawed. Same goes for the idea that an athletic donor, no matter how important, should have any influence on the selection or dismissal of a university president.
The president's job is to run the entire university, not just the sports teams. You want to fire Alexander? OK -- talk about how our academic rankings haven't improved, or how our grant money hasn't increased. Don't talk about the fricking athletics programs.
Sports is peripheral to the central mission of a public university, i.e. public universities do not exist to play sports, they exist to educate the public and the people of the state with the aim of creating economic opportunity and mobility.
You obviously haven't read Lipsey's article. Just yesterday alone the news pointed out $400K in fraudulent payroll in the Vet School and employee skimming in the University Lab school. Things are not healthy at LSU.
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