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re: Recruiting is the problem

Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:48 am to
How do we fix this secondary? I know it’s an offensive game but there has to be some stops. Did Louisiana quit producing DB talent?
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1578 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:50 am to
I keep seeing blanket statements about recruiting.

Two questions.

How is recruiting the problem when Kelly has finished one class and signed one full class?

What is the concern going forward? We have a top ten class at the moment and should finish there. Is it because we aren’t hitting every target?
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7977 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:51 am to
The concern is the two best players in the state at massive positions of need arent coming here.

We are “top 10” today gut will finish in the teens. Not exactly a great place for his first full recruiting cycle.
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
822 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:51 am to
O was a good D-line coach , period .
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
7808 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:54 am to
Two things: 1. NIL. Everyone acts like schools weren’t paying for recruits before NIL remember the Bama Bagman? NIL did increase the amount you had to pay players because it is out in the open.

2. The only thing O was interested in recruiting after 2019 was MILFs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281858 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:54 am to
quote:

What is the concern going forward? We have a top ten class at the moment


Its not a great class and we appear to be losing ground.

It would be less of an issue if the portal pickups weren't primarily very average producers. But the recruiting across the board is not elite.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2711 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

The other two goofballs didn't have to deal with NIL and O briefly had to deal with the portal.

Finally many posters on this board are starting to get it. No coach at LSU will be great in recruiting as long as NIL exist in its current state. They just don’t have the financial backing to compete with some schools.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451055 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

O was a good D-line coach , period .

He was a much better recruiter than DL coach.

He was like Les in that he didn't comprehend the modern game. O was not intelligent and when DL needs changed, he was left behind.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75445 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:59 am to
most teams aren’t built on their last 2 classes

the issue goes back to the 2020 and 2021 classes.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4243 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:00 am to
quote:

O was a great recruiter.


True-but he left nothing in the cupboard so who cares? Say what you will about Miles but the personnel was in place to build on. C
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
6189 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:01 am to
Maybe LSU and BR has declined to a point where elite players not want to come here.

College $tation is not the murder capital of the world.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30653 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:03 am to
Recruiting is a problem. We are 18 months removed from starting a wr at qb for a bowl game. The cupboard was bare, so Kelly gets a pass for probably 3 season to get it re stocked with depth.

But the defensive issues I maintain are not a recruiting problem. We are poorly coached. Recruiting isn’t gonna fix poor tackling and missed assignments. And that’s not a recruiting issue.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
30981 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:05 am to
People don’t want to admit it but people are stealing LSU recruits left and right

Our 5 star WR that’s been committed to us was in Austin yesterday for his second game in 3 weeks and will be at the Red River game because he lives in Dallas

That never use to happen
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32063 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Ed did not maintain the LSU standard of recruiting


Chase
Jefferson
Damien Lewis
Chaisson
Stingley
Flott
Marshall
Damone Clark


Just to name a few, all committed to O
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284954 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Our 5 star WR that’s been committed to us was in Austin yesterday for his second game in 3 weeks and will be at the Red River game because he lives in Dallas

That never use to happen



5 Star players from Out of State de-committing has happened a lot long before this staff took over.


WR is the last position im worried about. Do people even watch CFB and see the WR's across the nation from LA showing out?
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6694 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:09 am to
Posted in another thread but since this is a recruiting thread will ask here too.


Here is my question about NIL and recruiting. It is not a defense if Kelly, just a question.

How much control does the HC have now with NIL? How can the coach get recruits paid and signed, if other schools have more resources and can pay more than we can?

People keep talking about poor recruiting. And while it may be subpar, how much can the head coach really control that? Seems like a lot of it beyond what he can control.

If I’m wrong, and may very well be, can someone more in touch with recruiting explain how it really works
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25257 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:12 am to
quote:


2. The only thing O was interested in recruiting after 2019 was MILFs

He was very successful with that though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281858 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:13 am to
quote:

most teams aren’t built on their last 2 classes


With the portal wide open, they sure are. Were getting very average players through the portal.

Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4243 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Maybe LSU and BR has declined to a point where elite players not want to come here.


Oh brother
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
833 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:26 am to
I do understand that 1 out of 10 transfers *might* become Burrow or Tommy Tanks in baseball but, overall, if we our transferring in starters then that IS a sign of poor recruiting and development. That should be “in case of emergency break glass” maneuver.
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