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Recruiting is the problem
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:15 am
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:15 am
When Brian Kelly was hired, we all said he would win a title here because the last two goofballs did. The difference is the last two goofballs maintained the LSU standard of recruiting and Brian Kelly is NOT.
I fear if Kelly is here for five years, recruiting will be subpar and LSU will sink into the mediocrity we all feared and falsely bitched about for the past ten years and we may have to completely rebuild the program from the ground up when his replacement arrives, resulting in a very long title drought.
Tell me I’m being an overly dramatic little bitch here. I’m overreacting, right?
I fear if Kelly is here for five years, recruiting will be subpar and LSU will sink into the mediocrity we all feared and falsely bitched about for the past ten years and we may have to completely rebuild the program from the ground up when his replacement arrives, resulting in a very long title drought.
Tell me I’m being an overly dramatic little bitch here. I’m overreacting, right?
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:16 am to TDsngumbo
Ed did not maintain the LSU standard of recruiting, his classes from 2018 on were dreadful and put the program in the hole it’s currently trying to be dug out from.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:16 am to TDsngumbo
The other two goofballs didn't have to deal with NIL and O briefly had to deal with the portal.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:17 am to Damone
O was a great recruiter.
Damone please stop
Damone please stop
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:17 am to Damone
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Ed did not maintain the LSU standard of recruiting, his classes from 2018 on were dreadful and put the program in the hole it’s currently trying to be dug out from.
This can't be stated enough.
O was a disaster.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:17 am to TDsngumbo
The portal is a bigger issue. We're bringing in FCS type talent for the most part.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to TDsngumbo
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The difference is the last two goofballs maintained the LSU standard of recruiting and Brian Kelly is NOT.
Umm, did you miss the last few recruiting cycles under O?
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to ThrowITdeep
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O was a great recruiter.
Myth.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to ThrowITdeep
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O was a great recruiter.
As a positional coach being directed by an intelligent person.
As the head coach? He was not anywhere near great.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to ThrowITdeep
Keep saying it and maybe time will reverse and it will come true.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to TDsngumbo
Well, you’re probably not wrong but to be fair, NIL is a new day and the skill sets of recruiters no longer matter much. Money is all that matters. You will still get the occasional Weeks brothers who want to play for LSU but by and large, they will play for Benjamin Franklin. The transfer portal has largely destroyed that dynamic as well. The football we loved in our youth is gone.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
BK is looking like a disaster now. Just with less national championships than O.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:19 am to ThrowITdeep
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ThrowITdeepRecruiting is the problem
by ThrowITdeepO was a great recruiter.
His best class - production wise was ranked 15th
His higher ranked classes sucked and a bunch of LA guys he passed are playing well elsewhere
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:20 am to TDsngumbo
He was an overreaction to coach O. We needed some professionalism put in place not at the expense of killing the energy of the program.
The whole operation is flat. Recruiting. Fan support. Game day experience.
Very Midwest. Boring as frick.
The whole operation is flat. Recruiting. Fan support. Game day experience.
Very Midwest. Boring as frick.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:20 am to TDsngumbo
You’re overreacting
Most of our best players are from the 2022-23 recruiting/portal classes that have remaining eligibility.
2024 being ranked 10th or whatever right now is being overblown, with the exception of the DL holes. The secondary class is very strong and we have some highly elite trait offensive players on board. If we can get some DL, I’ll be very happy with this class, whatever it’s ranked.
Most of our best players are from the 2022-23 recruiting/portal classes that have remaining eligibility.
2024 being ranked 10th or whatever right now is being overblown, with the exception of the DL holes. The secondary class is very strong and we have some highly elite trait offensive players on board. If we can get some DL, I’ll be very happy with this class, whatever it’s ranked.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:21 am to TDsngumbo
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I fear if Kelly is here for five years, recruiting will be subpar and LSU will sink into the mediocrity we all feared and falsely bitched about for the past ten years and we may have to completely rebuild the program from the ground up when his replacement arrives, resulting in a very long title drought.
His first class was ranked 5th and he’s had to build the program from bottom up
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:21 am to ThrowITdeep
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O was a great recruiter.
Damone is dead right. How could you possibly make this argument? Orgeron might have been good at recruiting specific targets, but he was terrible at picking the targets. He left us with 39 scholarship players. How is that maintaining the LSU standard?
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:21 am to Tesla
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NIL is a new day and the skill sets of recruiters no longer matter much. M
This is 100% false
Even schools like UT have ELITE recruiters and have their recruiting organized and directed by an elite recruiting mind (our very own Brandon Harris). The money helps, for sure, but it's still by and large the same recruiting game for 99% of recruits.
Kelly is not an elite recruiter.
Kelly assembled a staff lacking elite recruiters (Frank is not the Frank of the mid-00s). Our one elite guy is now in the NFL and our top-level recruiting fell off a cliff once he left.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:21 am to TDsngumbo
It started with Os last 2 classes and the exodus but Kelly and company have handpicked the majority of the current roster so yeah. He won't even play the good ones he did get.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:22 am to TDsngumbo
Right now lsu is ranked 8 on rivals(ahead of Bama) and 9 on 24/7.
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