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re: Players opting out shows the difference of character between our generations.

Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2145 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Lou Holtz. Football coach was
asked what is the difference in
football players today and 50 years
ago. He answered "Simple, Today's
athletes talk about rights and
privileges. And the players 50 years
ago talked about obligations and
responsibilities !"


Well 50 years ago the best players weren't staring at a multi-million dollar pay day.

And Lou Holtz is a caricature. Period.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66465 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:45 am to
1. You can pay for your last few semesters of college with league minimum money.

2. Students transfer colleges all the time. It’s dumb to pretend academics are why a student shouldn’t transfer.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

in 1970, the first round draft picks salaries averaged $45,000 with a bonus of $80,000.


You forgot this bit of info.
The median money income of families in the United States in 1970 was $9,870. So 45K +80K bonus was a lot of cash at that time.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:51 am to
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Who would downvote this statement....it is 100% the truth!


My BIL dropped out of LSU to work offshore. Does he owe you anything too? What does Lou Holtz say about him, grandpa?
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4568 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

your team playing in a meaningless bowl?


Double-edged sword. It’s only meaningless because they’re making it meaningless. It means something to every play that chooses to play and every fan that attends/watches.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:59 am to
These players have been straight-up exploited for years by the ptb. TV, schools, coaches, NCAA have made millions on the backs of these "student-athletes" giving them next to nothing in return. Most returned to poverty whence they came. Now a very few will make a few dollars from NIL, but it is still disgraceful how they are treated financially because the ptb can get away with it.

Athletic revenue should be a profit-sharing undertaking with the kids who are generating the money. All of them.

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:10 am to
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This is one of the most tired and wore out bullshite narrative's there is. You can't name 10 players who were injured in a bowl game in that 20 years that had there draft stock impact as a result. What makes it even further bullshite is that these players will use this excuse yet do all kinds of risky stuff off the football field. Some of these same kids will quit and claim it is to avoid risking injury yet they lack the mental discipline to back off the devil's lettuce for just a few month's until the combine and draft are over with.


It really is. I can’t tell you five or 10 guys who have had their careers altered as a result of an injury during a bowl game. It just doesn’t happen like Twitter want you to think it does. I think the real issue is that there’s no more concept of team anymore. Nobody has pride in representing anything other than themselves these days. Everything is about self branding and self promotion and it has ruined the concept of most team sports these days at the non-professional level
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:13 am to
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Cute narrative, but wrong on all counts: NFL ratings are up 17% this year


Last year was a Covid year and the lowest ratings n it’s history with all the social injustice for athletes making millions. It had no where to go but up.

The five years prior was a steady decline of viewership. Will be interesting to see if it declines again next year.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:15 am to
These bowls are not meaningless to the ones that play. Why punish a whole team because a few players opted out?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:16 am to
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What we have seen in the last five years is society saying “it’s okay to quit. It’s okay to play for the name on the back of the jersey instead of the name on the front.” Former pro player on the radio this morning said when you got to the NFL you could see that many in the locker room were there just for the pay check. And that’s what you guys are trying to bring to college now. Congrats.


Boom.

Solid post
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:19 am to
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These players have been straight-up exploited for years by the ptb. TV, schools, coaches, NCAA have made millions


What a joke. Athletes that have an opportunity to make millions and are exploited! Lol!

Take football or any sport away and see how much most of these athletes have an opportunity to make.

You don’t have to play football and be exploited. What a freaking joke. Athletes get free meals, drinks, housing, make money for wearing clothes, make money from playing, get any hot girl they want. But damn, they can only make millions not billions like the owners. So exploited they are.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5532 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Lou Holtz. Football coach was
asked what is the difference in
football players today and 50 years
ago. He answered "Simple, Today's
athletes talk about rights and
privileges. And the players 50 years
ago talked about obligations and
responsibilities !"
In the 1970s, football players were smoking dope, shooting roids, chugging beer, and chasing tail. The percentage of players with "character" problems is the same as it is today.

Lou Holtz is full of shite.


“[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances. . . .
They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it." - Rhetoric, Aristotle, 4th Century BC

“The beardless youth… does not foresee what is useful, squandering his money.” - Horace, 1st Century BC

“Youth were never more sawcie, yea never more savagely saucie . . . the ancient are scorned, the honourable are contemned, the magistrate is not dreaded.” - The Wise-Man’s Forecast against the Evill Time, Thomas Barnes, 1624

"Whither are the manly vigour and athletic appearance of our forefathers flown? Can these be their legitimate heirs? Surely, no; a race of effeminate, self-admiring, emaciated fribbles can never have descended in a direct line from the heroes of Potiers and Agincourt…” - Letter in Town and Country magazine republished in Paris Fashion: A Cultural History, 1771

“A pernicious excitement to learn and play chess has spread all over the country, and numerous clubs for practicing this game have been formed in cities and villages…chess is a mere amusement of a very inferior character, which robs the mind of valuable time that might be devoted to nobler acquirements … they require out-door exercises–not this sort of mental gladiatorship.” - Scientific American, July, 1858

“We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.” - The Conduct of Young People, Hull Daily Mail, 1925

“Probably there is no period in history in which young people have given such emphatic utterance to a tendency to reject that which is old and to wish for that which is new.” - Young People Drinking More, Portsmouth Evening News, 1936

“It’s an irony, but so many of us are a cautious, nervous, conservative crew that some of the elders who five years ago feared that we might come trooping home full of foreign radical ideas are now afraid that the opposite might be too true, and that we could be lacking some of the old American gambling spirit and enterprise.” - The Care and Handling of a Heritage: One of the “scared-rabbit” generation reassures wild-eyed elders about future, Life, 1950
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
588 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:20 am to
I see a lot of people saying it’s about the money.

Well with NIL, this years freshman class shouldn’t be opting out in 3-4 years right? I mean some of these kids are making over 100k to play football. Should they be obligated to play ?
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1744 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:44 am to
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What is way worse than any player deciding to opt out or transfer is the remote idea that any of those players owe you, the fan, any considerations whatsoever.


You, and your buddies posting above are a special kind of stupid. What do you think happens to all that NFL money if there are no fans? The players owe the fans everything! No fans, no money!
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1744 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:45 am to
Liar! That's an ESPN link! They are as fake as they come!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:47 am to
quote:

What if the school is a private university or that boosters pay the coach?
Come on, man, even private universities receive huge federal dollars.

And boosters aren't fans???
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Players opting out are doing so for life changing money and opportunities. Are they really going risk that so you can feel good about your team playing in a meaningless bowl? It's absurd. Your school pride about 1 game doesn't feed their families for years.



You're getting downvoted but you are 100% correct.

The audacity of the idiots on this board to think their respect/opinion of a player is worth someone risking generational wealth for their family, is astounding.

As if anyone of them haven't ever quit a job or changed life situations to ensure financial security for their family.


Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:56 am to
In 1969 or so LSU’s entire team opted out of a bowl game bc they got their panties a wad.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
366 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:14 am to
Posted by edukated_fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
135 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:33 am to
Where are you getting this inflation stat? I am seeing on multiple websites that $23K in 1970 is equal to around 150K today. That's significantly less than what you're saying, although I'm sure you can explain the difference to me since you have such an incredible grasp on economics and inflation.
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