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re: Paul Mainieri says Drew Bianco is getting a look at...shortstop?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:47 pm to ell_13
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:47 pm to ell_13
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When to pull someone can always be questioned by hindsight
Except when it's Russell Reynolds against Florida and I (and others I'm sure) said that even though it is the right move to start him, there is no way he should face any hitters a second time.
Didn't need hindsight on that one.
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:48 pm to The Pirate King
Did it occur to any tards on here that cpm is grooming emergency substitutes? And more than normal due to china virus.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:52 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:And he did a hell of a job getting through the lineup the first time. He was two batters too late pulling him. And we still could have won that game later on. I can understand the plan to have him make it through the lineup once... and I can sort of understand the "gut" move to keep him in after he held his own okay... but it's your job as the coach not to get caught up in the moment and know your players and Reynolds was never going to get through it twice... ever. I can't remember, because I was at the game and a little drunk, but was someone ready to go in time to pull RR? I know PM has had that problem before. He waits too long to get someone ready and it's 2 or 3 batters too late rather than 1. He's made multiple excuses for that problem before. First, he would say that he doesn't want his starter to see someone warming up and get even more pressure on him (utter bullshite) but then he started blaming arm soreness in a way by claiming that pitchers who get warm and then have to sit are being strained too much and ruining their arms. Again, utter bullshite.
Except when it's Russell Reynolds against Florida and I (and others I'm sure) said that even though it is the right move to start him, there is no way he should face any hitters a second time.
Didn't need hindsight on that one.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:54 pm to Penrod
quote:I'd be okay with this if it wasn't just SS and if it wasn't at a position that isn't locked up. But we know that's not why he's looking at Bianco there so calling us tards is an interesting approach on your part.
Did it occur to any tards on here that cpm is grooming emergency substitutes? And more than normal due to china virus.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:55 pm to michael corleone
Preach. Nobody here wants to believe that but it’s the truth.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:00 pm to Penrod
quote:
Did it occur to any tards on here that cpm is grooming emergency substitutes?
There was an article in the newspaper that was all about this very thing.
That's why Crews has worked at 3rd. Safford in CF. Sanford at 2B.
One thing that was never mentioned was Bianco playing shortstop.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:03 pm to ell_13
quote:
was someone ready to go in time to pull RR?
Not to my knowledge.
quote:
he started blaming arm soreness in a way by claiming that pitchers who get warm and then have to sit are being strained too much and ruining their arms.
I disagree that this is reason is bullshite. I don't think it's a valid excuse though. To me it points to not having a plan of action and making sure guys know what days they need to be ready and what kinds of situations they may be needed in.
It points to being reactive vs proactive, and doesn't excuse away the problem.
ETA: When I say I disagree with the reason being bullshite it's because there is a marked decline in performance for guys get hot every day whether or not they get into the game. Which is why having more arms available and planning for when to use them is so important.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:06 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:He used that excuse after one weekend where I think one reliever got warm then sat then got warm again and didn't do well. I can't remember the player but it was a few years ago. He used the excuse during the post game when asked why someone wasn't ready to go yet and he said he now waits as long as possible to protect guys arms. That, to me, is bullshite.
TA: When I say I disagree with the reason being bullshite it's because there is a marked decline in performance for guys get hot every day whether or not they get into the game. Which is why having more arms available and planning for when to use them is so important.
ETA: My issue is that it doesn't take THAT long to get a reliever ready yet he waits until his current pitcher is already in deep trouble and should really only be facing one more batter before even sends someone to the pen. That means that even with a mound visit, that pitcher still hast to face 2 more batters. He doesn't send guys down early to even start with their stretches and loosening drills.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:11 pm to ell_13
I guess I should say, I think the excuse is bullshite, but I don't think he's wrong on how it can negatively affect guys arms (health or performance wise).
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:15 pm to ProjectP2294
I see your point but your situation didn't really match anything he's ever done. Or if it has happened, I can't recall it. Talking about when a guy gets up and loose and we don't use him that day, and he's asked to get up and loose the next day and doesn't perform well.
And I agree with your point about there needing to be a plan for specific guys on a specific days, especially on a weekend. I know we adhere to it pretty good during the weekdays, but that's a whole different issue/topic on its own.
And I agree with your point about there needing to be a plan for specific guys on a specific days, especially on a weekend. I know we adhere to it pretty good during the weekdays, but that's a whole different issue/topic on its own.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:17 pm to In The Know
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Preach. Nobody here wants to believe that but it’s the truth.
You still haven’t answered why you you think we are going to struggle this season. Is it solely because Bianco might possibly play SS at some point this weekend, because I don’t think that’s a great reason.
Also has anyone on this board actually seen Bianco play SS? If it’s true that’s he’s lost 15-20 pounds then maybe it’s possible that he’s not that bad defensively there? I have no idea if that’s true but there’s not much to go off of when evaluating if he can play that position or not.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:20 pm to michael corleone
And all of sudden we're gonna let Austin Bain bat? And Kramer bat lead off? And Todd Peterson be the closer?
Players can improve.
Players can improve.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:26 pm to AlwysATgr
It took people a half a season of Kramer playing really good shortstop to get some of the fan base to accept it and some never did and just waited for him to struggle to tell everyone. Lucky for them that came a year and a half later in the CWS and boy were they excited.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:43 pm to geauxtigers33
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:03 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:great season no doubt but pm got carried by po/lang/walker...mostly po/lan
took people a half a season of Kramer playing really good shortstop to get some of the fan base to accept it and some never did and just waited for him to struggle to tell everyone. Lucky for them that came a year and a half later in the CWS and boy were they excited.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:46 pm to The Pirate King
This has to be a rogue comment to hide the fact that a third, unmentioned person will be the SS. 
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:51 pm to sharkfhin
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:25 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
And all of sudden we're gonna let Austin Bain bat? And Kramer bat lead off? And Todd Peterson be the closer?
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:52 pm to ProjectP2294
I don't think, in the 35+ years I have been watching baseball, I have ever seen a left handed SS or 3B.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:37 pm to The Pirate King
I scanned the posts and didn't see this mentioned.
If Bianco winds up playing shortstop, I hope this move works as well as it does the only time I can recall it happening in major league baseball.
Prior to the start of the 1968 World Series, Detroit Tigers manager Mayo Smith made what was considered one of the gutsiest moves ever. He moved center fielder Mickey Stanley to shortstop for the World Series. The Tigers won a thrilling 7 game series over the defending champions, the St. Louis Cardinals.
If Bianco winds up playing shortstop, I hope this move works as well as it does the only time I can recall it happening in major league baseball.
Prior to the start of the 1968 World Series, Detroit Tigers manager Mayo Smith made what was considered one of the gutsiest moves ever. He moved center fielder Mickey Stanley to shortstop for the World Series. The Tigers won a thrilling 7 game series over the defending champions, the St. Louis Cardinals.
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