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Missed call that everyone got wrong even after review
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:37 am
Refs on the field got it wrong, Birmingham got it wrong and TV got it wrong.
At the 14:25 #5 Ferguson caught a pass while in the air and landed on PJ Woodland who was laying out of bounds. They reviewed it and still got it wrong which shouldn't be surprise. I am saying this not to make a excuse, that drive resulted in a missed FG. I am just highlighting how poor the officiating is in the SEC.
Go to the 14:25 mark
Under NCAA rules, if an airborne receiver catches the ball and lands entirely on a defender who is laying out of bounds, the pass is ruled incomplete.
The Core Logic
According to NCAA Rule 4-2-1 and Rule 2-4-3, a player is considered out of bounds when any part of their body touches anything on or outside a boundary line other than another player or an official.
While touching an inbounds defender does not make an airborne receiver out of bounds, completing a catch requires the receiver to firmly secure the ball and touch the ground inbounds with at least one foot or another body part. Because the defender is legally treated as an extension of the out-of-bounds area if they are touching the boundary line, landing exclusively on that defender means the receiver has failed to establish contact with the ground inbounds.
At the 14:25 #5 Ferguson caught a pass while in the air and landed on PJ Woodland who was laying out of bounds. They reviewed it and still got it wrong which shouldn't be surprise. I am saying this not to make a excuse, that drive resulted in a missed FG. I am just highlighting how poor the officiating is in the SEC.
Go to the 14:25 mark
Under NCAA rules, if an airborne receiver catches the ball and lands entirely on a defender who is laying out of bounds, the pass is ruled incomplete.
The Core Logic
According to NCAA Rule 4-2-1 and Rule 2-4-3, a player is considered out of bounds when any part of their body touches anything on or outside a boundary line other than another player or an official.
While touching an inbounds defender does not make an airborne receiver out of bounds, completing a catch requires the receiver to firmly secure the ball and touch the ground inbounds with at least one foot or another body part. Because the defender is legally treated as an extension of the out-of-bounds area if they are touching the boundary line, landing exclusively on that defender means the receiver has failed to establish contact with the ground inbounds.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:40 am to Ponchy Tiger
Two things can be true. We played/coached poorly and the refs had a clear bias towards Kentucky. Makes it even more frustrating that Kiffin didn’t go for it.
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:43 am to DhanTigers212
Playing poorly is an over statement. Penalties and a killer instinct is what kills this team. They plat hard.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:49 am to DhanTigers212
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Two things can be true. We played/coached poorly and the refs had a clear bias towards Kentucky. Makes it even more frustrating that Kiffin didn’t go for it.
You obviously didn't even read my post. I said that one call didn't impact the game. LSU did not get the job done on the field coaching or playing.
I was just highlight how poor officiating is in the SEC
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:51 am to Ponchy Tiger
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landing exclusively on that defender means the receiver has failed to establish contact with the ground inbounds.
He didn't land exclusively on that player. His elbow hit the ground inbounds.
(Fixing body part that hit ground)
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:52 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
According to NCAA Rule 4-2-1 and Rule 2-4-3, a player is considered out of bounds when any part of their body touches anything on or outside a boundary line other than another player or an official.
While touching an inbounds defender does not make an airborne receiver out of bounds, completing a catch requires the receiver to firmly secure the ball and touch the ground inbounds with at least one foot or another body part. Because the defender is legally treated as an extension of the out-of-bounds area if they are touching the boundary line, landing exclusively on that defender means the receiver has failed to establish contact with the ground inbounds.
The way it was described last night, the elbow touching inbounds made it a legal completion. If the WR lands on the defender inbounds while part of the defender is out of bounds, and the WR fails to touch inbounds before rolling out of bounds, then it is incomplete. It's oddly worded and doesn't make much sense, but that is most rules in modern football.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:53 am to chryso
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He didn't land exclusively on that player. His foot hit the ground inbounds.
It’s quite amazing the amount of false things said in this board even after watching. His elbow landed in bounds and no other part of his body hit in bounds and he fell on top of our guy first before his elbow hit.
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:54 am to Ponchy Tiger
In English, if the receiver lands on a defender who is out of bounds before a body part touches in bounds, he is out of bounds?
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:57 am to chryso
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He didn't land exclusively on that player. His foot hit the ground inbounds.
His elbow not his foot hit inbounds
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:58 am to Ponchy Tiger
20 bucks says this rule gets us again when we are offense before season is over.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:01 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Under NCAA rules, if an airborne receiver catches the ball and lands entirely on a defender who is laying out of bounds, the pass is ruled incomplete.
I was actually wondering this while they were reviewing. I thought that was the case but they never mentioned it.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:02 am to Ponchy Tiger
He didn’t entirely land on the player. His elbow touched in bounds before any part of him touched out of bounds.
You are reading the rule incorrectly. Had he landed on the defender with nothing touching in bounds and then went out, he is out of bounds. Instead he had a body part come down in bounds.
It’s a stupid rule, sure, but it is what it is.
You are reading the rule incorrectly. Had he landed on the defender with nothing touching in bounds and then went out, he is out of bounds. Instead he had a body part come down in bounds.
It’s a stupid rule, sure, but it is what it is.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:20 am to BallChamp00
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His elbow landed in bounds and no other part of his body hit in bounds and he fell on top of our guy first before his elbow hit.
Sorry, elbow, I don't have video in front of me. I just remember some part of his body hit inbounds.
I will fix it.
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:23 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:This isn't hard. Correct call.
landing exclusively on that defender means the receiver has failed to establish contact with the ground inbounds.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:25 am to Ponchy Tiger
Did you notice where they started to talk about it where they said he fell on top of the receiver and then the sentence got cut short and they never spoke of it again? That infuriates me more than anything when announcers bite their tongue when they know something is wrong. It disgusts me on a cellular level
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:29 am to RB10
I thought that rule was changed a few years ago after an LSU game in which a recovered fumble did not count for us. Does anyone else remember this?
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:52 am to Penrod
You're thinking of a loose ball fumble when a player out-of-bounds touches it before a player in-bounds gains possession. That rules it dead and the possession reverts back to the offense.
I think it was the 22 Bama game where that happened to us.
It's a different situation than what happened last night. At no time did the LSU player touch the ball last night.
Hope that helps.
I think it was the 22 Bama game where that happened to us.
It's a different situation than what happened last night. At no time did the LSU player touch the ball last night.
Hope that helps.
Posted on 10/11/26 at 12:13 pm to Gonadballbarian
quote:What was wrong?
That infuriates me more than anything when announcers bite their tongue when they know something is wrong
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