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re: Look what our woke, Leftist education system has done for our country
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
I read an article over 30 years ago and it was the first time that math scores had stopped declining in years. The article cited different innovative teaching approaches happening across the country. Wonderful wonderful stuff, America is back........
Later we would find out most of these were bullshite from when schools went merit based on students performance.....so the teachers just cheated on the tests.
There was a second article after this one, not based on feel good nonsense, but just the facts. From micro by school districts, to macro overall, as the amount of asian kids entered the school system, grades improved overall in math. Even though they made up a small percentage, their scores were so much higher they actually moved the overall curve.
Later we would find out most of these were bullshite from when schools went merit based on students performance.....so the teachers just cheated on the tests.
There was a second article after this one, not based on feel good nonsense, but just the facts. From micro by school districts, to macro overall, as the amount of asian kids entered the school system, grades improved overall in math. Even though they made up a small percentage, their scores were so much higher they actually moved the overall curve.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:24 am to RohanGonzales
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You really are a fricking moron.
And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:25 am to kywildcatfanone
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China and Japan passed us years ago and its only going to get worse from here.
Our public education system is not only the most expensive, but also least effective. It's a joke.
They also have some of the strictest immigration policies in the world, while we choose to import the third world en masse
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:27 am to TBoy
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And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.
My mind is vastly more developed than yours. You are literally too stupid to realize that.
The idiocy of "throwing more money at it" hasn't worked in NYC or DC or Chicago or any other large democrat-run city. Why is that?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:29 am to Geekboy
When you remove the welfare class from the testing, we are actually pretty competitive.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:44 am to jmcwhrter
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They also have some of the strictest immigration policies in the world, while we choose to import the third world en masse
Thank the democratic party.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
My Memory was slightly off it was 2015. China passed us in 2015 PISA test.
You said they, so now you get the say it's Japan you were talking about, but "they" should have included China and Japan as originally stated, with a primary topic of China being at the top.
Point being the US education system has been on a decline since federal influence gained more and more control and we focused on the wrong things and strain to justify it.
2015 China surpassed the U.S. in math scores during the PISA test, with students from four provinces achieving the highest scores globally.
2018 The trend continued, with Chinese students maintaining higher average math scores than their U.S. counterparts.
2022 The gap widened further, with U.S. students scoring significantly lower than those in China.
You said they, so now you get the say it's Japan you were talking about, but "they" should have included China and Japan as originally stated, with a primary topic of China being at the top.
Point being the US education system has been on a decline since federal influence gained more and more control and we focused on the wrong things and strain to justify it.
2015 China surpassed the U.S. in math scores during the PISA test, with students from four provinces achieving the highest scores globally.
2018 The trend continued, with Chinese students maintaining higher average math scores than their U.S. counterparts.
2022 The gap widened further, with U.S. students scoring significantly lower than those in China.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:58 am to Dock Holiday
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Point being the US education system has been on a decline since federal influence gained more and more control and we focused on the wrong things and strain to justify it.
Again, this doesn't really have shite to do with it.
Our average education scores are impacted by the growing under class.
This is why we rank so low in all of these social scoring endeavors.
Saying our average anything is getting worse just says our underclass is growing.
I'll let Macho Man explain this in gif form:
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:58 am to Geekboy
We have something China and Japan don’t have. I’ll let you guess what that is. Also, importing millions of 3rd worlders who can barely read or write doesn’t help either.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:59 am to Geekboy
Leftist f$ck just about everything up.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:41 am to kywildcatfanone
My son teaches Japanese kids English. He also has 2 daughters who attend Japanese schools. He says one big difference in Japanese education is the teachers, at all levels, are university-level educators. As opposed to U.S. teachers who are controlled by liberal unions, with little focus on education. Just look at the stats like math here, reading, etc.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:19 am to TBoy
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And you are quite obviously a product of your right wing anti-education environment.
How much money does it take to teach math in say, Baltimore?
It would be interesting to see how much money is spent in our worst performing skools compared to China/Japan.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:24 am to Geekboy
Obama promised, if elected, he would fundamentally change America. I didn't believe him.
It appears his Education system has succeeded.
The Gutless Congress allowed it to happen.
I didn't realize how weak they were.
It appears his Education system has succeeded.
The Gutless Congress allowed it to happen.
I didn't realize how weak they were.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Our average education scores are impacted by the growing under class.
Wonder who started that program.
When you start paying unemployable women to have babies, and encourage working females to take birth control, and join the workforce, bad things will happen to a country.
That damned thing called "genetics" will eventually make a difference.
Damn you LBJ.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:13 am to TBoy
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Right wingers have been defunding public education and universities as a central mission for decades. This is the result of that long term process.
We spend more per pupil than any country, and that has steadily increased for decades. We spend the most in some of the worst performing districts such as Baltimore, Chicago, and DC - cities not controlled by the right.
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Break down education by state and region in America and the tale is told.
That tale is that the more non-Whites and non-Asians there are the lower the test results.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:35 am to Geekboy
Ranking 15 year olds
I’d imagine in many of those countries, by 15, their below avg students have already been sent to the mines or factory work so the only ones that take the test are their best and brightest.
I’d imagine in many of those countries, by 15, their below avg students have already been sent to the mines or factory work so the only ones that take the test are their best and brightest.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:53 am to kywildcatfanone
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China and Japan passed us years ago and its only going to get worse from here.
I don't doubt that China and Japan have higher math scores than we do. Like many, I've been disappointed in the decline in US education that I perceive. OTOH, one of the many things I learned from Covid is to NOT trust any statistics or information that comes out of China. I wouldn't put it past China to doctor their math scores somehow.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:54 am to Geekboy
demographic shift
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:49 am to Geekboy
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Look what our woke, Leftist education system has done for our country
Not sure what you're going for here when the majority of the dumbest states vote republican.
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