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re: Les' teams had character, leaders, men

Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Les had 2 hour practices in full pads everyday and had Some of the nastiest defenses lsu has ever seen year in and year out. Yeah he fricked us by refusing to change the offense, but one thing was always for certain with his teams, his defense was NEVER going to be pushed around. Those days are long gone

Dude we lost 31-13 against Ole Miss under Les the year after the natty in 2008 with a loaded team and talent.

Ole Miss beat LSU 38-17 with our 2015 team and L.Fournette.

There’s so many games and seasons like this. Go back to 2013 for plenty of shite defensive performances too like Mett’s game at Georgia. Or the 2013 loss to Ole Miss despite having OBJ, Landry, J.Hill, Mett and Ole Miss having a bunch of backups starting on defense
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28514 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Les' teams had character, leaders, men

I’m not saying that players being arrested or other trouble was common place under Miles, but it felt like it at times. You’re an Idiot.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11364 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:39 pm to
wut??? Those were some of the most undisciplined teams I've ever watched. Rode around campus on their scooters, got arrested and suspended like crazy.... did you give this even 4 seconds of thought before smashing post?

What's next? Posts about how Coach O ran tight practices??
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29317 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:39 pm to
Even IF Kelly is not the answer, firing les miles was a good idea.

We’d have never won the Fiesta Bowl, had 2019, and we’d be boring as ever. Les could have stayed forever had he just chosen to fix the offense and gave everyone the middle finger:
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:41 pm to
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I’m not saying that players being arrested or other trouble was common place under Miles, but it felt like it at times.


I feel bad for saying it but usually it takes having a heavy emphasis on thuggery to build a badass, stifling, smothering, defense, I guarantee you on Saban and Miles teams there were guys on defense that even coaches were afraid to be around away from the football facilities

ETA: I doubt anyone is afraid of anyone on our current defense
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28514 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:46 pm to
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You Les haters

Who in the frick is even going around talking about Miles at this point?
Get a life.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7608 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:46 pm to
A major cause of this is not having developed his culture with guys that are in their 3rd or 4th year with him. He hasn't even hit the 2 year mark yet. Give it time to pan out. His ND teams were well disciplined once he got them established.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12260 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:52 pm to
Yeah, I am really pissed off at Kelley and especially House right now, but this is not fair criticism about completely changing the culture yet.
Les had plenty of thugs, classroom fugitives, and self entitled POS, but he mostly won, so we looked the other way. The old joke was that a fourth of the team was suspended at least for part of the first three games under Les.
Les is probably currently underappreciated for his football success at LSU, but he is gone for very good reasons.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7633 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:52 pm to
They were also tough as shite and weren't scared to hit.

Miles was a buffoon in some aspects of coaching for sure but his teams were tough, and played mean.

Unfortunately I don't think it's as much on the coaches as we want to say. The players now more than ever are being wined and dined and softened up.

Even the mighty Nick Saban's teams have looked softer and have left of that killer instinct, head hunting style player
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30528 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Les' teams had character, leaders, men
Felons etc.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2050 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:54 pm to
What? The lack of character of Les' late career teams lead to his firing. Darius Guice and Drake Davis come to mind first.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1608 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:56 pm to
Les made some really bad coordinator decisions as well and then he hamstrung the offense for 7 years with his conservative philosophy.
Posted by Mickey53
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2009
446 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:03 pm to
Go back to the ND board!!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:15 pm to
it's more about the kids than the coaches. They are getting money. Some make more than the coaches.
Posted by Bigbro24
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2023
124 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:14 pm to
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Even the mighty Nick Saban's teams have looked softer and have left of that killer instinct, head hunting style player


Darn, you're saying society in general-young men are les masculine than ever....yikes

Even football players?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Les' teams had character, leaders, men


Les is also a shitty human being so don't think this makes a good argument.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1002 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:34 pm to
Agreed. Miles’ teams had certified GOONS
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13050 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:23 pm to
Is that why Honey Badger got kicked off the team?
Posted by JustinT37
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1817 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:50 pm to
The amount of talent LSU had during the Les era is top 1 or 2 in the nation. Bottom line players had to answer to players back then, not just coaches. Sam Montgomery would chew a teammates arse for lack of effort, I don’t see any guy that would do that on LSU’s sideline.
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