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re: Les Miles' strategy to Beat Alabama just now on SEC Nation

Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:13 am to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:13 am to
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"Attack them where they are strong. You have to make them bend."
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:14 am to
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And I know a few weeks ago in a discussion with Rick Daddy that a quick check discovered that roughly 90% of his posts on the rant over the past few months were still directly related to miles






Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:20 am to
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i honestly think he is mentally ill. No other explanation. he cannot be that stupid. or can he?


Frankly it almost seems like one more a-hole troll of LSU fans because I have never heard a coach in my entire life who didn't preach the concept of mismatches and taking advantage where your team has an advantage

The ability to do that is literally the difference between a good coach and a bad coach but all coaches try to do it. Just some are better at it than others

Since even being mentally ill wouldn't explain that comment and he can't possibly have been brought up in coaching thinking that all you can conclude is it is but one more example that he's an arrogant assholes
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:21 am to
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he cannot be that stupid. or can he?


I think he is that stupid. I think he basically ran on emotions. It was great for forming affective bonds with his players -- that's why they all loved him. But it did not make for great strategy -- as his comment illustrates, he basically just wanted to out-chest the other team. That's not a strategy, that's an emotion. One that should be suppressed when the other team is stronger than yours is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:24 am to
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I think he is that stupid. I think he basically ran on emotions. It was great for forming affective bonds with his players -- that's why they all loved him. But it did not make for great strategy -- as his comment illustrates, he basically just wanted to out-chest the other team. That's not a strategy, that's an emotion. One that should be suppressed when the other team is stronger than yours is.



This is why I laughed at the idea some middle-of-the-road school would pick miles up even if he wanted a job

Miles coaching Style absolutely requires that he always have the better players on the field. If miles coached at Kentucky he would average 2 wins a season because the man has no idea how to manufacture victory if he can't just run you over
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:25 am to
Thank god Miles was only a football coach, where that ridiculous strategy only resulted in lost football games. I shudder to think of the results if he was in the real world, as a business leader or, far worse, a military leader.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:28 am to
If Miles was a general defending a Port City against a foe with no Navy miles would still figure out how to be surrounded on all sides
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 11:29 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:29 am to
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Attack them where they are strong. You have to make them bend." 



i don't even ....


come the frick on LES.

I know you pay me the big bucks but damn...youre not making this easy on me.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:30 am to
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This is why I laughed at the idea some middle-of-the-road school would pick miles up even if he wanted a job



correct. it basically proved our points we made for years. If not even a crap school wanted him they saw what we saw.

quote:

Miles coaching Style absolutely requires that he always have the better players on the field. If miles coached at Kentucky he would average 2 wins a season because the man has no idea how to manufacture victory if he can't just run you over




bingo
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:34 am to
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Miles coaching Style absolutely requires that he always have the better players on the field. If miles coached at Kentucky he would average 2 wins a season because the man has no idea how to manufacture victory if he can't just run you over


so how do you explain him at Oklahoma State?

and you've really moved on from bashing miles like you've said.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23538 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:35 am to
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"Attack them where they are strong. You have to make them bend."

Didn't watch, so I didn't catch the context.

To be fair, that's a way of saying "don't let them dictate what you do".
Saban knows defense inside and out, and if you focus solely on attacking the 'weakness', he will play chess with you, baiting you to do things.

Going after the strength of the defense keeps the defense's calls more basic, since they aren't disguising and adjusting as much. At that point, it's simply talent and execution to do.
Game in Tuscaloosa in 2011, and again during Fournette's freshman year- we ran right at them, and did make them bend. Was 1-1 vs them, should have been 2-0.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:36 am to
I'll guarantee you that you could give miles and All Star NFL team and Belichik the Cleveland Browns and miles would be lucky to go 1 + 15 a season where they only played each other
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3792 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:36 am to
I didn't defend Les, but I'm not going to trash him either. I don't think we have any room to. I wanted him gone, and replaced with an elite coach.

Instead LSU replaced him with ORGERON. I mean, shite. The man whose coaching strategy has to be NOT to coach.

I'll bet all you people who are trashing Miles will be making excuses for O when his records end up being the same or worse, which will prove you are a O fan, not an LSU fan.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:40 am to
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I'll guarantee you that you could give miles and All Star NFL team and Belichik the Cleveland Browns and miles would be lucky to go 1 + 15 a season where they only played each other


you're stupid.
Posted by phi1514
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Jan 2008
1331 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:43 am to
Miles should have been gone YEARS ago!!!
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
19119 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:44 am to
2014 is obviously the year I'm talking about, with juice and beckham....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:45 am to
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Miles should have been gone YEARS ago!!!


cool. that's youre opinion and youre entitled to it. I think he should've been fired after 2015.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:47 am to
I'm amazed by your disdain for Miles considering all he accomplished... I really think fans became delusional based on how he started. Hell even when he went 11-1 fans bitched about him, so for some you can no make happy.
After he was fired you had "fans" coming out of the woodwork with comments such as, "see I told you we should have never hired him." "Larry Coker 2.0" and stupid shite like that.

I really think LSU fans just like to complain about nothing
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
91100 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:47 am to
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"don't let them dictate what you do".


yeah because counter attacking and mixing it up is so terrible. Bama dictated to us what D they would run and lestard did not do shite about it most times.

quote:

Saban knows defense inside and out, and if you focus solely on attacking the 'weakness', he will play chess with you, baiting you to do things.



keep spinning defending les.

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73752 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:49 am to
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so how do you explain him at Oklahoma State?


Were they really that good?

Seems like they are a far superior team since he's left.. so how do you explain that?

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