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re: Kelly is the best HC we've had since Nick Saban
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:38 am to BanzaiBengal
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:38 am to BanzaiBengal
To be on par with Saban, Kelly has to win a National championship and put us in the NC conversation every year (not just invited to the playoffs given how many teams are going to be included next year). He might be one defensive staff overhaul away from doing just that. Recruiting needs to be top five every year. We’ll probably miss that target this cycle… but see defensive staff needs.
I don’t think Les or Orgeron should be the bar.
I don’t think Les or Orgeron should be the bar.
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:42 am to BanzaiBengal
100 percent fact! Kelly is the only coach ever to “rehab “ 5 programs.
1.Grand Valley state
2. Central Michigan
3. Cincinatti
4. Notre dame
5. LSU
Each of these programs was broken and was left in a much better place. Most people don’t remember Notre Dame had a brutal run prior to Kelly and he restored it to a championship contender with brutal academic standards!
1.Grand Valley state
2. Central Michigan
3. Cincinatti
4. Notre dame
5. LSU
Each of these programs was broken and was left in a much better place. Most people don’t remember Notre Dame had a brutal run prior to Kelly and he restored it to a championship contender with brutal academic standards!
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:21 am to chilge2
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I may be in the minority, but I actually think Les would kill it here in the NIL era.
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QB development was his Achilles' heel
That’s a pretty gigantic Achilles heel
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:23 am to BanzaiBengal
saying BK is better than O and Les is not saying particularly much
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:32 am to BanzaiBengal
We will see. I judge based upon results.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:36 am to BanzaiBengal
Kelly hasn’t won a championship in his entire career. Will he? We will see. I just hope the blaming Coach O bs is over with, undoubtedly some idiot(s) will regurgitate it in the near future and for a few years to come.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:39 am to Zamperini2014
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100 percent fact!
Why is it that every time someone posts this you know it is absolutely false?
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Each of these programs was broken
Not all of them
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1.Grand Valley state
THe 5 years before Kelly took over as HC at GVSU
1986 - Record: 9-2 overall, 4-1 league
1987 - Record: 7-4 overall, 4-1 league
1988 - Record: 7-4 overall, 3-2 league
1989 - Record: 11-1 overall, 5-0 league, MIFC Champions, NCAA DII Playoff Appearance
1990 - Record: 10-2 overall, 9-1 league, MIFC Champions, NCAA DII Playoff Appearance
Not broken. Nor did they need rehab.
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2. Central Michigan
Awful, they didn't need rehab, rehab implies they were ever any good. They were never right from what I can tell. They needed someone to get the program built for the first time.
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3. Cincinatti
4. Notre dame
They were mediocre,
For Cincinnati, that wasn't much different than they had been before Kelly got there. Kelly raised the standard and left them in much better shape.
For ND, that mediocrity, the up then down seasons, was not what they were used to. The mediocrity was post-Holtz. That is what Kelly fixed there. And that is the closest parallel to LSU, him bringing a program back to the place it had been just a few years before.
All of that sort of shows how versatile Kelly is as a person in charge of a program. He can do whatever is needed to build, fix, rebuild, or sustain a program.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:43 am to Gus007
quote:only for you retards that blow coach O. There will be no asterisk numb nuts
If Kelly wins the Championship in his third year there will be an *.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:20 pm to derp
Kelly needs to beat Alabama at least every other year. A high bar, but this is what it’s going to take to get to the next level, playoffs and SECCG.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:48 pm to BanzaiBengal
I would tend to agree EXCEPT the defense is SOOO bad I’m beginning to lose some faith in his judgement. Here we have a Heisman winning QB and a record setting or near record setting offense and we are not competing for a title of any sort. That is next level bad defense.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:17 pm to justice
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only for you retards that blow coach O. There will be no asterisk numb nuts
I've watched LSU for decades believing we were playing to win a Championship. Didn't realize LSU was just pretending, settling for second was good enough.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:06 pm to Gus007
Bertman let Saban walk away without even putting up ANY fight at all with Huizenga or effort to keep Nick at LSU; just rolled over and played dead. (A lot like Alleva with Tom Herman)
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:10 pm to BanzaiBengal
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Kelly is the best HC we've had since Nick Saban
Rings:
Miles 1
Orgeron 1
Kelly 0
IF and until this changes your statement is false!
The ultimate goal is to win a championship, if some have, and one has not, he can not possibly be better!
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:12 pm to mmcgrath
Brooks got brain cancer. You can't tell me that helped. There is a correlation with bad DL play and freak injury to a player in the secondary
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:12 pm to BanzaiBengal
Kelly is a very good coach imo, and he is putting it all together. Major change needs to happen on defense though, obviously.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:21 pm to KC Tiger
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That’s a silly standard. Anybody on this board can name lots of coaches better than Ed Orgeron, Gene Chizic and Jimbo Fisher who never won a National Championship.
I think that's the point.
When Miles was here, the argument was "any idiot could win 10 games at LSU."
Kelly has a chance to do it twice in two tries. (Devil's advocate: win #10 last year was a glorified FCS team in Purdue)
If he's that much better of a coach than O or Miles, then he should win championships that much easier than them.
Now, remember, LSU fans were dunking on UGA in 2018 and 2019 after beating Smart twice in a row, and they were just getting started, so Kelly's story isn't fully written yet. But he has to somehow have a miraculous fix for the defense.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:23 pm to BanzaiBengal
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Year 3 is a giant question mark but man, are you really that worried? We've had two patchwork teams and both overachieved imo.
Throughout BK’s career, year 3 was always the big year.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:32 pm to BanzaiBengal
BK picked his own Defensive coordinator and rest of the staff. If Kelly had fired The DC house after one the tigers would have had a national title. Gotta think witj your common sense god gave you. Some coaches are satisfied with mediocrity and some coaches like saban are not satisfied with mediocre results.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:00 pm to BanzaiBengal
By far he is. If he can start getting the recruiting classes in the top 7 then we will have a dynasty. The man can coach no doubt on that.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:19 pm to KC Tiger
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That’s a silly standard.
It’s coach Kelly’s standard.
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Anybody on this board can name lots of coaches better than Ed Orgeron, Gene Chizic and Jimbo Fisher who never won a National Championship.
You can name anyone you want, the goal is to win a championship, and if you can’t get it done, you will be shown the door.
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