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re: Just saying the unsayable, thank God Sellers went down

Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:20 pm to
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That’s not how football works, bro (or ma’am, not sure now)

That is how football works. The team that scores the most points wins.
He made a mistake on their 2nd drive of the game too. Then he followed it up with two scoring drives. You are literally just assuming that they wouldn’t score more than 9 points with Sellers in the 2nd half with zero statistical evidence to back it up.

SC was better in every statistical category in the 1st half (with Sellers) than they were in the 2nd half (without Sellers)
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:24 pm to
The defense was starting to settle down after the 1st qtr. To say we absolutely wouldn’t come back if he stayed in the game is ridiculous. The only thing I will say is if they don’t call the blindside hit on Nuss we probably don’t win.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:24 pm to
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You are literally just assuming that they wouldn’t score more than 9 points with Sellers in the 2nd half with zero statistical evidence to back it up.

And you’re assuming they win the game if he plays the second half. Again, we outplayed them in the second quarter & the bulk of their yards came on the ground.

SC was better in every statistical category in the 1st quarter (with Sellers) than they were in the 2nd quarter (with Sellers)
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:26 pm to
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You are literally just assuming that they wouldn’t score more than 9 points with Sellers in the 2nd half with zero statistical evidence to back it up.


If there is a way to discuss a hypothetical situation without making assumptions, you let me know.

And you are taking a stat line from one part of the game and extrapolating it to the rest of the game. That’s not how it works.

Sellers’ play was starting to deteriorate. He was getting hit, making mistakes.




Posted by YMCA
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:45 pm to
I don’t know if the outcome would’ve been much different. Before he got hurt he was 9/16 for 113 yards and a pick and had 88 yards rushing(75 on one carry).
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19023 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:51 pm to
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And you’re assuming they win the game if he plays the second half. Again, we outplayed them in the second quarter & the bulk of their yards came on the ground.

Surely you understand that it is easier for LSU to defend the run when they know that the opposing QB literally is not going to throw the ball.
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SC was better in every statistical category in the 1st quarter (with Sellers) than they were in the 2nd quarter (with Sellers)

Except for they had the same number of total yards, same number of turnovers, but scored 10 more points in the 2nd quarter…
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:55 pm to
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And you are taking a stat line from one part of the game and extrapolating it to the rest of the game. That’s not how it works.

And you are pretending like Sellers would have done the same thing as Ashford or pretending that for some reason Ashford is better than Sellers.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Except for they had the same number of total yards, same number of turnovers, but scored 10 more points in the 2nd quarter…

So you’re telling me Sellers turned the ball over 2x & Ashford turned it over zero?

It’s simple. There is no way to know how the second half plays out with Sellers because he didn’t go.

Sellers can’t tackle Caden Durham. Sellers can’t kick field goals. Sellers can’t prevent their defense jumping offsides.

We won the game.

Take your gamecock propaganda to the SEC rant.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:05 pm to
You’re consistently anti-LSU. You’re nit-picking stats and avoiding others.

Sellers had a very good first half. But LSU had already starting cutting into the lead before he got injured due to his own mistakes. He was becoming less and less effecting as the game went on. We do t know if our defense would’ve been able to continue that trend or not because he was injured. That’s part of the game. He was injured on a play that our defense made. What he would have done after is irrelevant. It didn’t happen. We won. Get over it and move on. This team has a lot to work on, but I’m happy we won. It’s very difficult to win on the road in this league. Add to it that this was Nuss’ first true road game as a starter.


ETA Cade Durham was also just getting started.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:19 pm to
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And you are pretending like Sellers would have done the same thing as Ashford or pretending that for some reason Ashford is better than Sellers.


I never said, or insinuated, either of those things.

Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Ashford threw 4 total passes?


One of them was an absolute dime, but called back for PI, and his throw while scrambling on the last drive almost caused a tie.

He also gave us all we wanted when he was at Auburn in Kelly’s first year. Additionally, he is faster than sellers.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19023 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:50 pm to
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So you’re telling me Sellers turned the ball over 2x & Ashford turned it over zero?

What? That was is response to you saying that South Carolina was statistically better in the 1st quarter when compared to the 2nd quarter. That’s just not true.
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Sellers can’t tackle Caden Durham. Sellers can’t kick field goals. Sellers can’t prevent their defense jumping offsides.

I am talking about South Carolina’s offensive production in the 2nd half compared to the 1st half.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19023 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:59 pm to
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You’re consistently anti-LSU. You’re nit-picking stats and avoiding others.

How am I anti-LSU. And I am responding to everyone who says something to me. Who am I avoiding?
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Sellers had a very good first half.

He really didn’t. He was actually pretty bad, as is South Carolina’s entire offense.
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We won. Get over it and move on. This team has a lot to work on, but I’m happy we won.

I’m happy we won too. That doesn’t mean I can’t point out obvious weaknesses and concerns with the team.
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ETA Cade Durham was also just getting started.

That’s great. He has nothing to do with South Carolina’s offense. It’s insane that Durham wasn’t in on any of the 4 plays we ran from the SC 2 yard line. That was coaching malpractice.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19023 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 2:01 pm to
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I never said, or insinuated, either of those things.

Do you think that South Carolina would have scored more than 9 points in the 2nd half if Sellers was playing?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:31 pm to
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SC was better in every statistical category in the 1st half


good god dude, give it up. Yes, breaking a long run certainly skews numbers. The dude is not a good QB. You are acting like he is some all-american or something.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:34 pm to
LSU finished the first half outscoring SC 16-7, with him at QB. You guys acting like this cat is some stud...lol
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:27 pm to
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Do you think that South Carolina would have scored more than 9 points in the 2nd half if Sellers was playing?


Maybe. And maybe Sellers coughs up a couple fumbles or throws some picks.

They were very conservative with Ashford, out of necessity. Sellers was very loose with the football.

Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
5275 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:34 pm to
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That’s great. He has nothing to do with South Carolina’s offense. It’s insane that Durham wasn’t in on any of the 4 plays we ran from the SC 2 yard line. That was coaching malpractice.


The relevance is flow of the game. LSU started to develop a run game. That helps both our offense and defense. We sustain drives on O, keeping their offense off the field. Also gives our defense rest. How that translat3s into points is unknown. But it’s not as simple as “If Sellers doesn’t get injured…” You’re trying way too hard to discount what actually transpired by creating hyperbolic alternative narratives.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47956 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:41 pm to
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LSU finished the first half outscoring SC 16-7, with him at QB. You guys acting like this cat is some stud...lol
What selective take.

How about it was 24-10 before he got injured.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21246 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:51 pm to
He did have 2 turnovers in the first half
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