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re: John Carmouche: "the taxpayer has never paid for a coach and never will"

Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:43 am to
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5730 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:43 am to
I was thinking yeah rightr when I heard him say that.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31184 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:49 am to
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Landry knows this but wants to grandstand



I want to assume he knows this, but he didn't know the BCS ended in 2013
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:54 am to
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To any sane person, the governor melting on national media is more concerning than nameless people on a message board bitching about him.

You are really co fused here lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:54 am to
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and refuse to acknowledge that they are making a fool of themselves by saying the governor is spot on with his ridiculous comments.

Who did this lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:55 am to
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only everyone was as brilliant as Tacky Sweater aka the sitting governor.

“I don’t know what I’m talking about so I’ll just name-call”

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12695 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:06 pm to
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tiger94gop

I will ask again:

If the LSU athletic department had to defund revenue sharing by $8m/year to pay a buyout, would you say they “spent taxpayer money” or “spent state funds” to pay for it?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33438 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Where was the governor? Why was he not firing up the masses about paying $50 million dollars of taxpayer money to Franklin?

You dint think the governor told them the state wasnt paying, thats why they refused to answer? Just because he didnt speak openly, doesnt mean he hasnt spoken

Problem in La. is we dont have a prez, nor a trusted AD to do what needed to be done. Or to answer the questions being asked. Its done. Let the process work. Everyone is thankful, and almost all media said it had to be done. Only Landry had the power to do it, at present

LSU will get a new prez and it will flow from there, like usual
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51211 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:17 pm to
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You dint think the governor told them the state wasnt paying, thats why they refused to answer? Just because he didnt speak openly, doesnt mean he hasnt spoken


Wait wait wait

You actually think the state of Pennsylvania pays for Penn State’s athletics?

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Problem in La. is we dont have a prez, nor a trusted AD to do what needed to be done. Or to answer the questions being asked. Its done. Let the process work. Everyone is thankful, and almost all media said it had to be done. Only Landry had the power to do it, at present


This is laughably naive.

quote:

LSU will get a new prez and it will flow from there, like usual


It’s already flowing, and would be in the same exact position without Laney’s media tour.

It literally served zero purpose other than to put LSU into the spotlight in a very negative way.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7129 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:39 pm to
Landry’s saving grace may in fact be that he is TOO stupid for even the people who work for him to take seriously.

Thanks god. If the BOS stands firm, this may turn out alright after all.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
826 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:48 pm to
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the taxpayer is on the contract


How would you propose to remove the taxpayer from the contract, as mentioned in your previous post?

It’s not like it’s directly stated in there that the taxpayer is responsible. LSU is responsible, because LSU is hiring the coach to work for LSU. The only way to get “the taxpayer” out of the contract is to not have LSU named.

I’m genuinely curious what people want to see in a contract to alleviate this “problem”?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38820 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:37 pm to
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How would you propose to remove the taxpayer from the contract, as mentioned in your previous post?



go show me what i said....then i will answer.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:48 pm to
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And no department or state has ever, in any state, paid a buyout. Ever.


Well…..that ain’t exactly true there
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:52 pm to
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The only way academic/state funds get used is if the entire athletic department collapses.



Ummmm…..no
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51211 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Ummmm…..no


With regards to LSU? Ummmmmm….yes.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88173 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Well…..that ain’t exactly true there


how so? be specific
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 2:08 pm to
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With regards to LSU? Ummmmmm….yes


No - this incident will change how LSU, Louisiana and TAF operate long term.

All 3 will come out even stronger though.

Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
795 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:00 pm to
This is by far the biggest buyout ever put in a contract by LSU so at some point donors are not gonna pay
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
3236 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:12 pm to
Two things can be true at the same time. It may not directly effect tax payers but could still have a negative impact on the university as a whole. You can't tell me a piss poor ran athletic department isnt a burden at some points on a state funded university. See the story about ULL that came out today. And has it been 100% disproven that there wasn't a conflict of interest and some mishandling of some of this stuff by the athletic department? Some people along the way are agreeing with alot of this or it wouldn't be happening like it is.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:00 pm to
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the governor is allowed to speak about it.

This is America, the governor is free to talk about whatever he wants, just like everybody else. But when he starts talking about shite he doesn't know anything about, he looks like an idiot, just like anyone else. Successful people generally don't want to work for idiots.

Other governors let the people hired to do particular jobs do those jobs and don't interfere. This is the more professional environment successful people prefer to operate in.

But these days, pettiness, childishness and unprofessionalism is the fashion, so this is what we get.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
826 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:11 pm to
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Landry is technically correct but not practically so. Then practically take the taxpayer burden out of the technical contract. Replyreplies3... up vote5


Here’s the one I replied to. There are several others where you say ‘ it’s in ink’ etc

My point is, it doesn’t say the words ‘ the taxpayers are responsible’ so that cannot be taken out.

It’s just that if you ask an attorney who is responsible for the buyout and then you go down the entire cascade you eventually arrive at the taxpayer because LSU is a state entity.

LSU is the responsible party. LSU has many sources of funding but in the end, in a total Armageddon, the final rung in the ladder is the state, i.e. the taxpayers.

But, here’s the kicker. We are discussing buyout.
In the scenario that this would reach that far down the ladder of responsibility— just don’t fire the guy!!
Then there’s no buyout. And if the boosters don’t pay, the athletic department has gone insolvent, the university has gone insolvent, and the state has gone insolvent — losing football games won’t be the biggest issue.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 5:24 pm
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