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re: Jay Johnson is the most elite LSU coach
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:55 am to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:55 am to 00 Tech Grad
IMHO he is the second most elite and on his way to being the most elite. Returning the LSU baseball dynasty to Skip levels would make me ecstatic. LSU baseball is pure uncomplicated joy to me in a way none of the other sports are.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:59 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Jay Johnson is the ONLY elite LSU coach
FIFY
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:02 am to Tiger1988
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Even managing every game and situation perfectly, baseball is still tougher to win than basketball is.
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lord some of you
what is inaccurate about that statement?
baseball is unlike any of the other major sports.
you don't have the exact same roster available to you every singe day like you do in basketball.
you can hit the ball dead on the screws 4 times in a row and smoke everyone of them right at somebody and go 0-fer on the day.
or you can nub one off the end of the bat and get a hit and RBI.
so even if you make the "right" move, doesn't always work out for you.
in basketball (barring injury) you have your best players on your roster available every single game.
in Omaha, we only had Skenes available in 2 of the 8 games we played (call it 3, because he would have thrown in game 3 if the situation called for it).
so in more than half your games, your most dominant player on your roster wasn't even available to play.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:07 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Jay Johnson is the ONLY elite LSU coach
I know TD isn’t representative of all LSU fans but sometimes I can’t help but think lsu fans don’t deserve anything good with shite like this and these threads
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:13 pm to lovinLSU
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Some ranters wanted him fired too.. go figure.. LoL..
OP had faith all along
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:47 pm to lovinLSU
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Some ranters wanted him fired too.. go figure.. LoL..
seems like it was yesterday
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:03 pm to Nutriaitch
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baseball is unlike any of the other major sports.
you don't have the exact same roster available to you every singe day like you do in basketball.
Do you watch basketball?
1. So, does Kim have the same lineup now as preseason?
How many baseball players are in physical shape to run up and down the court for an hour.
They sprint for fly balls, some times once an inning, sometimes not at all if the pitcher is talented.
They bat, sometimes skipping two innings.
The pitcher and catcher are the only players that are typically exhausted after most games.
You can't play basketball unless you have the endurance of a distance runner in track.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:26 pm to Nutriaitch
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Even managing every game and situation perfectly, baseball is still tougher to win than basketball is.
what is inaccurate about that statement?
What’s wrong is that you genius mathematicians have no idea what you’re talking about. Baseball might be tougher to win than basketball, but if so it’s not because of the nature of the game but because more teams are contending. That is the only measure of how hard it is to win.
You might not have thought too hard about this, but I’ll point it out: Have you noticed that in baseball, which is supposedly harder to win, there is nonetheless a champion every year. That’s the same number of champions that basketball produces. But if it’s harder wouldn’t there be fewer champions?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:35 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Jay Johnson is the most elite LSU coach
Hot takes by the minute!
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:19 pm to Penrod
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What’s wrong is that you genius mathematicians have no idea what you’re talking about. Baseball might be tougher to win than basketball, but if so it’s not because of the nature of the game but because more teams are contending. That is the only measure of how hard it is to win. You might not have thought too hard about this, but I’ll point it out: Have you noticed that in baseball, which is supposedly harder to win, there is nonetheless a champion every year. That’s the same number of champions that basketball produces. But if it’s harder wouldn’t there be fewer champions?
I think he may be trying to make the point that there are more “intangibles” in baseball than basketball.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:33 pm to Lester Earl
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OP had faith all along
You kind of made my point. Injuries among the pitching staff that would’ve derailed just about any other season were overcome by elite coaching and development, and nobody expected it (including me) at the time.
It was the same kind of coaching job by Jay as it will be if Mulkey can still win a natty with this year’s limitations at PG and lack of depth. can she do it? I’d love to see it happen!! Would be awesome.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:17 pm to 00 Tech Grad
He's got the most established program. I think we have some elite coaches (Mulkey) and some others that we could end up looking at as elite in the near future (Kelly). But Johnson got the program to where it's a reload every year instead of rebuild.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:46 pm to Willie Stroker
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I think he may be trying to make the point that there are more “intangibles” in baseball than basketball.
College baseball is a regional sport. College Basketball is not only a national sport, the “lower level G5” schools not only sometimes win but frequently do so. Yes the rosters are smaller but the number of really good teams are larger.
I played baseball and umpired for many many years and understand his perspective about how hard the game is and how many factors go into every single pitch. I get it.
But the fact is, there are far more high level basketball teams than baseball competing for the same number of seeds(not counting “play-in”). It is so much harder on the men’s side. Women’s is not as hard as the game is really just starting to expand with LSU and Caitlin Clark, etc.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:02 pm to Tigerbait357
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I know TD isn’t representative of all LSU fans but sometimes I can’t help but think lsu fans don’t deserve anything good with shite like this and these threads
That MUST be a troll from SCe WBB.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:51 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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short bus
I'm sure you've rode plenty..
Posted on 2/1/24 at 2:29 am to 00 Tech Grad
Magician is ready to pounce on him and fire him
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:22 am to Gus007
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Do you watch basketball?
not as much as I did when I was younger and playing it, but yes.
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1. So, does Kim have the same lineup now as preseason?
barring injury of course, do some of her best players only get to play once every 4-5 games, or every game?
can Jay take out his best pitcher in the middle innings then put him back in the game after a breather like Kim can?
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How many baseball players are in physical shape to run up and down the court for an hour.
this has nothing to do with anything.
basketball players are conditioned to play basketball
football players are conditioned to play football
baseball for baseball, etc.
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They sprint for fly balls, some times once an inning, sometimes not at all if the pitcher is talented.
They bat, sometimes skipping two innings.
The pitcher and catcher are the only players that are typically exhausted after most games.
the best player in the entire country last year (Paul Skenes) pitched twice in Omaha.
we played 8 games there.
come March Madness, basketball coaches don't have to go multiple consecutive games without using there most dominant weapon (again, barring injury).
Everybody who is playing tonight, will be available to play in the very next game as well. So you're coaching tonight's game, with nowhere near as much emphasis in how your decision today affects tomorrow night's player availability.
also, in Basketball, you can design a play to get the ball into your best offensive player's hands with game on the line in final few moments of crunch time.
in Baseball, if it's not Dylan Crews or Tommy White's turn at bat, they have no choice but to just watch.
in Basketball, you can slow the game down and eat up the entire shot clock to bleed the clock if you have a lead late in the game.
in Baseball, you still have to throw strikes and get 3 outs every inning.
there is no way to "kill the clock"
in Basketball, you only have to be better than the other team on one night. Beat them today, and they go home.
in Omaha, we had to beat Tennessee twice, had to play the #1 seed (Wake Forest) 3 times. then had to play the #2 seed (Florida) 3 times.
that's 6 games in 8 days against the top 2 seeds in the tournament.
and 3 of those six have to be played without your top 2 starting pitchers.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:31 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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ay Johnson is the most elite LSU coach
Hot takes by the minute!
until he loses a midweek game...
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