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re: Is Jayden Daniels the BEST QB LSU has ever had? Yes…even better than Joey B?

Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by TommyDaTiger
Nawlins
Member since Dec 2015
10698 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:32 pm to
No but it’s closer than I ever thought it would be. Also would absolutely pick Daniels if I was an NFL team
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7888 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:41 pm to
If the season ended today Daniels would have the highest passer rating of all time. That stat alone makes your comment completely idiotic. And he runs so much because he knows if there’s a crease then he has the ability to take it 20+ yds.

The guy is absolutely deadly with his arm and legs. If you haven’t been able to see that all year then you are too stupid to argue with
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1876 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:46 pm to
Hard to compare and please dont forget Bert Jones.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19823 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:58 pm to
Cmon man. He played 2 good defenses this season lost both games
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51410 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:59 pm to
no.

Game on line, I want Joey. Twice this year game was on line in fourth and Daniels did not produce.
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
142 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:01 pm to
I don’t get all the people thinking Daniels is better. He’s incredible no doubt. The competition he’s played against in my opinion no way compares to what Burrow faced. Auburn, Bama, Florida, Clemson, and Georgia all had great defenses. I’m not sure any team Daniels played has played has a better defense than any of those aside from maybe Florida State.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:02 pm to
They are 1 and 1a in my book.

Put Daniels on the 2019 team and they still win the title.

Put Burrow on this team and they still have 3 losses.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Hopefully the recent success helps with recruitment of future QBs and hopefully more great dual threat types that give the opposing defenses nightmares


It will but need to keep Denbrock and Sloan around for at least a couple more years.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:07 pm to
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No chance. JD has tons of talent and has been phenomenal this year, but he didn't excel in the most critical games


Actually he did. Look at his numbers in the losses they are just as good as the wins

FSU was his worst game, I’ll give you that

Ole Miss he got the ball down 6 with 39 seconds left and drove the field making a good pass that was almost caught to win

He was killing Bama before he was knocked out of the game. On pace for 300/200
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:10 pm to
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Joe Burrow has LSU's only undefeated season


See I agree that Burrow slightly ahead. But I’m not going hold it against Daniels that his defense sucks.

As good as Joe was, give him the 2023 defense and they lose to Texas, Bama and maybe Auburn. Hell remember what Ole Miss did to the 2019 defense, imagine that against this one.
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3346 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:15 pm to
No… Top-five but definitely not number one
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10788 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:17 pm to
Sucks that Brian Kelly is a fraud.
Posted by idoubleu
Member since Jul 2014
269 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:21 pm to
The only thing separating Burrow and Daniels is Dave Aranda.

Burrow is uncanny at diagnosing the weaknesses and exploiting it with accurate throws.

Daniels can diagnose and exploit weaknesses with accurate throws, but his ability to take off and ru, making any dead play, a possible first down/ big run, has never been seen before. Not from a guy who can throw it like he can.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
922 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:24 pm to
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See I agree that Burrow slightly ahead. But I’m not going hold it against Daniels that his defense sucks.

Respectfully, who do you want after a big hit?

Remember the UCF big hit and what happened afterwards.

How about the targeting penalty against Clemson in the National Championship and what happened afterwards.

JD5 is a great player but he isn't generational player like BDJ. Like another poster said Joe Burrow is built different.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3661 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:24 pm to
Not as far as progression to pro football. Running QB’s don’t fair as bell in the long run with the pros. Take a beating and out with injuries (ie; Cam Newton). Joe could spot open receivers and not have to take off running so quick.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47506 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Before the argument gets too heated …I also think we are fortunate to see such talent close together…it may be a long time before we see a combo of JB9 so soon followed by JD5. Sit back and enjoy/appreciate it.



As a huge LSU Baseball Fan, the way I look at it is the way we looked at Bregman and then Crews. At the beginning of 2023 you would have been ridiculed if you said Crews was as good as Bregman. But May it was a fair comparison.
And by June it was solidified.

Same goes for Burrow and Daniels. It's harder to accept Daniels' success b/c we're still basking in the glow of 2019. But it's impossible to ignore what he's done since Labor Day. It's like a switch went off and, even in the losses to Ole Miss and Bama, Daniels has dominated the opposition.

It's unparalleled and it's been incredibly fun to watch in person.

If Daniels gets another 300 yards in the air and 80-100 on the ground Saturday, he should go down in LSU history for having the best season for a QB.

This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Respectfully, who do you want after a big hit? Remember the UCF big hit and what happened afterwards.


That’s BS. Burrow was not concussed
JD has taken a ton of huge hits this year and got up after all but one.


And do you really think he took himself out of the game and didn’t want to return.

I’m not arguing that JD is better but I will argue that if they somehow swapped teams, JD on 2019 and JB on 2013, the records would be identical.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
922 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:09 pm to
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I will argue that if they somehow swapped teams, JD on 2019 and JB on (2023 <-- FIFY,) the records would be identical.
You would argue and you would still be wrong.

JD5 is broken in half after the UCF hit and the targeting hit in the National Championship.

JD5 has been great this year! The original op was "is JD5 the best ever @ LSU and the answer is no a million times.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10788 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:02 pm to
No
Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
1213 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:23 pm to
He’s a more dynamic runner for sure
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