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re: I tried to warn you all in 2022
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:45 pm to GeauxLSU4
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:45 pm to GeauxLSU4
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The ND fans have all dug their heels in that Freeman is a much better coach than BK.
This is not true. We are hopeful he will be better, and IF he continues on his current trajectory, he will be. Time will tell.
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:50 pm to MarkGolf
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Outside the two horrific losses to Marshall and NIU, Freeman already has more victories in three years over ranked teams - with a better win percentage - than Kelly had in 12 years.
Well yeah, if you leave out the worst parts, Freeman has been good.
At the same time, Freeman took over a ready made program and has one more win than Kelly does despite the fact that Kelly took over a rebuild.
Kelly also isn't out here losing to G5 teams.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:51 pm to lil 7thward
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This is my biggest problem with Kelly. He hates playing young players. He is stubborn to the core.
Kelly has started multiple freshmen and sophomores at LSU.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:01 pm to Mirer
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Hahahahahah. He wont play underclassmen.
The man has plenty of flaws, but this absolutely just hasn’t been the case here. We’ve started and played multiple freshmen all three of his seasons. There are at least 8 true freshmen who are/have played rotation mins this season and 3 have started games. Durham is an every game starter.
Stick to things that are legit complaints.
ETA: I love that you downvote what you can’t possibly refute
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:14 pm to Sevensblue
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He didn’t develop those WR.
Are you really going to say they were all just as effective in 21 and 22 as in 23? Are you really claiming there was no improvement in WR play and the offense overall?
Your entire point is ridiculous anyway. Head coaches rarely develop anyone directly. A few will keep their hands in one position group, but that’s on the staff. Denbrock, Hankton and Sloan did a great job developing the entire offensive unit , WRs included, last year.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:22 pm to Sevensblue
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So who is he developing now? Do you see these guys being playmakers next year or do you plan on this recruiting class of true freshman to come in then be developed in 2 to 3 years from now?
Parker looked pretty damn good as a true freshman before he got hurt. Are you really going to complain that Anderson hasn’t been exceeded expectations? Most here thought he would be a fringe player, at best. He’s probably been our best WR. Daniels came in as a strong G5 player, and while he isn’t an overwhelming athlete, he’s been extremely solid and reliable when not injured. He lead all WRs in snap counts before he got injured because he catches everything and is our best blocker.
Sampson hasn’t shown anything, but that may just be him. Lacy has been good, but let’s just be honest- he isn’t at the same talent level as some of our recent WR1s. Hilton is just hurt all the time.
Let’s see how Green (if he stays at WR), Billiot and Watkins turn out before we say Hankton can’t do anything with these guys.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:28 pm to MarkGolf
Yes you did try to warn us.
And right now, you seem to have been right. Brian Kelly loses the games that matter the most.
But one thing you were wrong about, is that from where I sit, Brian Kelly’s teams DO NOT play tough football. They DO NOT play with physicality.
And they DO NOT play with a great deal of passion.
And for me, that is the most alarming thing that I have noticed so far.
Sometimes when players are thinking too much, it can make them appear to not be playing with passion, and to not be physical enough. So maybe that’s what’s going on… but I feel the more probable explanation is that Brian Kelly is losing the locker room.
I really hope I’m wrong about that, but I can’t think of any other reason that this team would play such SOFT and WEAK football.
And right now, you seem to have been right. Brian Kelly loses the games that matter the most.
But one thing you were wrong about, is that from where I sit, Brian Kelly’s teams DO NOT play tough football. They DO NOT play with physicality.
And they DO NOT play with a great deal of passion.
And for me, that is the most alarming thing that I have noticed so far.
Sometimes when players are thinking too much, it can make them appear to not be playing with passion, and to not be physical enough. So maybe that’s what’s going on… but I feel the more probable explanation is that Brian Kelly is losing the locker room.
I really hope I’m wrong about that, but I can’t think of any other reason that this team would play such SOFT and WEAK football.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:30 pm to Bayoubengal205
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but I feel the more probable explanation is that Brian Kelly is losing the locker room.
A bunch of you said the same thing last year and predicted a mass exodus to the portal in the offseason. Did that happen?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:33 pm to misey94
Coaches rarely ever actually lose a locker room, that's just a fan cliche that gets thrown around when things aren't going well.
For everything Florida has been through, Napier still hasn't lost that locker room.
For everything Florida has been through, Napier still hasn't lost that locker room.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:45 pm to misey94
Well I didn’t say anything about mass exodus then or now.
What I’m saying is that the team is not playing with physicality or passion, as if they have lost faith in their leader.
That’s what I’m sayin.
I didn’t even mention the portal..?
What I’m saying is that the team is not playing with physicality or passion, as if they have lost faith in their leader.
That’s what I’m sayin.
I didn’t even mention the portal..?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:20 pm to MarkGolf
Brian Kelly has done very well at every school he has worked for. It's simply indisputable that he is a good coach.
If Ed Orgeron can win a Natty at LSU, then Brian Kelly is capable of winning a Natty at LSU.
If Ed Orgeron can win a Natty at LSU, then Brian Kelly is capable of winning a Natty at LSU.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
No kidding, I’d like to see Notre Dame try to beat Alabama, USC, and Texas A&M!
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:06 am to misey94
Right…the credit goes to Hank ton as you said not BK…
He never had any good WR until LSU. Those guys were the tail end of ogeron recruiting. Now we’re seeing his guys…lacy? Anderson?…
He never had any good WR until LSU. Those guys were the tail end of ogeron recruiting. Now we’re seeing his guys…lacy? Anderson?…
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:15 am to MarkGolf
He started 2 freshman tackles his first year. Along with Mason Taylor lol. Perkins was a freshman when he was making headlines about his play. GTFO with this talk of BK not playing younger guys. The starting RB is a freshman too. Sorry you don't know anything about football. Maybe that is why ND has not won a championship since the 80s.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:59 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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True but one program looks to be rising and barring a collapse will make the playoff The other looks like a sinking ship
ND in the 4 years before MF: avg 10.5 wins; ND last 2 under MF: avg 9.5
LSU before BK: avg 5.5 wins; under BK: avg 10.
Freeman hasn’t elevated anything. He is at best trying to hold a program someone else elevated together.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:22 am to MarkGolf
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This is not true. We are hopeful he will be better, and IF he continues on his current trajectory, he will be. Time will tell.
Really? He is in year three as well. His biggest win is Texas A & M. Followed by a loss to northern Illinois. Outside of that the best team ND has played is Navy.
So let me get this straight. Freeman still needs time and on a current trajectory to be better but Kelly has established himself? Sour grapes my friend. They either both need time or they have both established themselves. It’s not like freeman can point to a bunch of top 10 wins.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:24 am to p226
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Can you tell us ... why did Notre Dame go 4-8 in 2016?
Brian VanGorder - Another one of Kelly's brilliant hires
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:26 am to LSUfanaddict
LSU would be undefeated with Indiana and notre dame schedule
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:38 am to MarkGolf
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If I were your AD, I'd throw every last dollar you have at Curt Cignetti.
Well it will take $70 m to do that. Will you care to pay the bill.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:22 pm to Bayoubengal205
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But one thing you were wrong about, is that from where I sit, Brian Kelly’s teams DO NOT play tough football. They DO NOT play with physicality.
And they DO NOT play with a great deal of passion.
That's surprising to me. Maybe he changed some of his coaching style.
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