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MarkGolf
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You always hope someone will grow/learn as they get older.
Obviously, that wasn’t the case with Kelly. Woodward - and most of us, fell for that hope hook, line and sinker…
P.S. Y’all still suck…
I actually like the LSU program. Hope y'all find a winner. I'd try to get Curt Cignetti as I think he's amazing. And culturally I think he'd fit in great as a former Bama assistant.
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re: Did I nail it?
Posted by MarkGolf on 10/27/25 at 12:01 am to PP7 for heisman
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Your shiny new coach has done nothing his predecessor didn't do.
Nice try. Three CFP victories vs. zero. More top 10 wins in three years than BK had in 12. You were saying...?
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- Excellent judge of talent on the recruiting trail. Is amazing at spotting under-recruited and under-rated players.
- Excellent at developing players, as evidenced by the number of players he's put into the NFL.
- Teams play hard and with passion and effort.
- Hires excellent assistants.
You missed big here
Guilty as charged concerning LSU!
Did I nail it?
Posted by MarkGolf on 10/26/25 at 11:26 pm
From four years ago:
- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
- Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
- Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
- Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
General comments:
- You will find BK is not a nice guy. You can justify it by saying nice guys finish last, and he's there not to make friends and his job is to win. And I would agree with that. Just telling you what you're getting.
- In summary, you will be happy with your new coach for a while. But unless he makes some fundamental changes to how he goes about things, you are likely in for what we experienced: Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit. But as I said, there's a balance. He's a proven winner and will win you a lot of games. Will he take you to the mountaintop once again? Personally, I doubt it.
- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
- Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
- Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
- Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
General comments:
- You will find BK is not a nice guy. You can justify it by saying nice guys finish last, and he's there not to make friends and his job is to win. And I would agree with that. Just telling you what you're getting.
- In summary, you will be happy with your new coach for a while. But unless he makes some fundamental changes to how he goes about things, you are likely in for what we experienced: Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit. But as I said, there's a balance. He's a proven winner and will win you a lot of games. Will he take you to the mountaintop once again? Personally, I doubt it.
re: Cauble reporting Kelly spoke to team for 5 minutes then left
Posted by MarkGolf on 10/26/25 at 11:12 pm to AlGoldenDomer
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Identical to his departure at Notre Dame... except this time y'all were smart enough to fire him
I tried to warn them when LSU hired Kelly. I was told he was great. I tried last year when ND made its awesome run in the playoff. I was told Freeman did nothing Kelly hadn't done at ND (?!) and Kelly would show me wrong.
Okay.
re: Cauble reporting Kelly spoke to team for 5 minutes then left
Posted by MarkGolf on 10/26/25 at 11:03 pm to King of New Orleans
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Cauble reporting Kelly spoke to team for 5 minutes then left
He did the same to Notre Dame.
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ND losses the past three years under Freeman:
2024 Northern Illinois
2022 Stanford
2022 Marshall
All at home. They lost to Stanford and Marshall with a team coming off a top 5 finish the previous season under Kelly.
LSU has 2 losses at home in 3 years and both to top 12 teams in Bama and Tennessee.
They are in different situations and good for Freeman succeeding how he has. He has not done anything special.
I understand Freeman had three losses at home to poor teams but Kelly had six of those. I'm not here to "bash" Kelly because he did greatly elevate the ND program but saying Freeman hasn't done anything special just isn't true.
I'm interested to see what Kelly does in 2025 with the portal players coming in. It looks like he did a great job and your QB Nussmeyer should be in the Heisman conversation.
re: Just like that…Kelly is vindicated
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/22/25 at 3:29 pm to Wichita Co Tiger
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Seriously not sure why the media has chosen to make so much of Notre dames season about Kelly. He got ND just as far before there was a 12 team playoff.
Seems like folks would be grateful for what he built there and not still be so bitter about the guy leaving but whatever.
Freeman had a nice season yes. Can he sustain it? Nobody knows. May have been a flash in the pan. Even Ed O looked like a good coach for one year lol.
Enjoy your bragging rights for an offseason and thanks for being civil.
Technically, yes, Notre Dame in 2024 did go as far as Brian Kelly's Notre Dame team did in 2012. But how they got there are two completely different things. The 2012 squad had several squeakers against poor teams and was exposed by Alabama. The 2024 team, while performing poorly for the middle 30 minutes against Ohio State, at least came back and made the outcome in doubt until the very end, and at the end the team looked like it belonged on the field. Not so with the 2012 squad. Then there's the matter of Kelly's postseason and big-game record at Notre Dame. This is why the media has been going gaga over Freeman in part, because he has three big postseason wins (at least by traditional standards...more on that later).
Having said that, most ND fans recognize his role in reviving and rebuilding the team. What we were unhappy about is the constant blowouts in big games and failure to win any of them. I was disappointed when he left for LSU as I was hopeful he was about to turn the corner. However, on Notre Dame's main discussion board, Notre Dame Nation Rock's House, everyone there hated him for various reasons. He interviewed with the Eagles during preparations for the 2012 title game. He didn't appreciate how windy it was the day Declan Sullivan died. He was a lazy recruiter (maybe that's now different at LSU). He often publicly blamed players for losses. And other reasons.
I haven't made any friends on this board when I gave my opinion about things earlier, and that's okay. Others here have diminished Notre Dame's success this year with some ridiculous caveats, but I understand that, too. Should LSU have a great playoff run next year, I would be among the first to say congratulations and not caveat your success. Even though we are fans of different teams, I'd like to think we are all part of the greatest team game in history, and we can discuss things without getting insulted or demeaned.
re: Congratulations to Ohio State
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/21/25 at 12:22 am to PurpleSingularity
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Your program has proven it can’t win the big game
Really? A win against the SEC champs (and spare me the "backup QB" crap ... Stockton bailed Georgia out against Texas and played well in the Sugar Bowl) in the playoff wasn't a big win? Or winning a final four game? If you guys want me gone from this board, quit posting nonsense.
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I have never read a Notre Dame message board or considered posting on one. The idea of a Notre Dame fan taking the time to post on this board is just very strange and entirely unnecessary. Just enjoy your team along with your fans, but your school, your fans and your coach have absolutely nothing to do with LSU.
You seem like one of the few good people here so I'll tell you. I guess I enjoy a good back and forth maybe a little too much. I came on here after reading all the inane stuff bashing Notre Dame's success under Marcus Freeman. I figured I could bring some in-context facts and reasoning here and have reasonable discussions about our great sport, but I was wrong. A lot of the posters here are just jerks. We've had more than a few opposing teams' fans hang out on the ND board I frequent and we enjoy their company. Not sure why so many here just come across as terrible people.
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YOU came here with the same holier than thou "we're happy your current coach is no longer our coach" shtick and are upset no one is rolling out the red carpet?
The only reason I came back to this board in the first place was all the crapping on Marcus Freeman with idiotic reasoning. You've actually got a really good coach and I like the guy.
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The more you talk about Freeman being better than BK makes me think you believe he really isn’t…
I guess I don't write clearly enough. I think Freeman has already done a better job at ND than Kelly has. Anyone who doesn't wear LSU gear knows that. But I always said Kelly is a good coach with many strengths. And hopefully for you he will elevate his game preparation and coaching. He's a very smart man so I wouldn't bet against it.
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He beat indiana, a 2 loss uga team without their starting qb, and a penn st team who hasnt won a big game in 15 years. If you want to crown him for that, then go ahead. Kelly beat those types of teams all the time at notre dame. Freeman is a good coach, but acting like he is a better coach than kelly based on what he has done with the ferrari kelly left him is asinine
Posts like this are why I stick around. Kelly never beat top 10 teams all the time. His record against them was terrible. And I was at the Sugar Bowl. Stockton played well (20/32, 232 yds.) but ND's defense that game was on another level.
A Ferrari? The same 2021 team that beat no one and needed a last-second miracle to beat powerhouse Toledo? And... wasn't LSU better than ND the past two years?
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No they didn’t. Ohio State went up 28, and coasted the rest of the way. Notre Dame is still Notre Dame. They play a weak schedule, then get exposed when they play a good team. Georgia minus their qb doesn’t count. You can go back to your own board now, Freeman isn’t better than Kelly. The difference is, he didn’t have a complete rebuild when he took over, unlike Kelly.
Bogus takes like this are why I stick around. OSU was not on "cruise control." Diminishing top 10 wins and 3 straight playoff wins is poor. I would never do that if LSU does that next year. And if you can point to me BK's three postseason wins against top 10 teams then I'll agree with you Freeman hasn't done any better.
re: Notre Dame fans spoke to soon
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/20/25 at 10:54 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
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Spoken like someone who doesn’t remember the decade of failure Notre Dame went through before Brian Kelly took over that program. BK brought the Irish back to CFB relevancy. Freeman is riding that legacy.
This is a common refrain I see here but it's just not in context. Weren't y'all better than ND the past two years?
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I’ll be honest, I have nothing against Freeman or even ND. The problem is, the continuous bashing of Kelly, and people saying Freeman is a better coach. The constant taking away from what Kelly did at ND, and acting like Freeman has done more. At the end of the day, Freeman took over a stable program, Kelly did not. Kelly has elevated LSU, from Orgeron’s last season as the coach. Freeman has not elevated Notre Dame.
Thank you for being one of the few reasonable people here. I disagree Freeman hasn't elevated ND because the results are better. And I guess no matter how many times I say Brian Kelly is a good coach and can win national championships at LSU I'll always be the bad guy. But that's okay. I enjoy the back and forth. We're all fans of the greatest sport there is.
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Posts like this are why everyone hates Notre Dame.
On our message board we welcome opposing fans. But I'm beginning to see why the worst LSU fans are among the worst in all of college football.
re: Congratulations to Ohio State
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/20/25 at 10:45 pm to MrSinnyman
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Why is this dude on Tiger Droppings? LMFAO go whine elsewhere
Nowhere in my post did I "whine." But whatever. I'll wait a year and see how y'all feel about BK then.
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couldnt imagine my team playing for a natty, and im on some other teams messageboard trying to lecture them
That's not what I did but okay, whatever.
re: Congratulations to Ohio State
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/20/25 at 10:42 pm to That LSU Guy
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Wrong board.
Hardly. I read several dozen posts about Freeman vs. Kelly before I posted anything here recently.
Congratulations to Ohio State
Posted by MarkGolf on 1/20/25 at 10:37 pm
First, I don't expect anyone here to like Notre Dame or even respect them. That's fair.
I came on this board three years ago to give you my assessment of Brian Kelly as a coach. My opinion hasn't changed. He's a good coach. He finds diamonds in the rough and develops players into NFL players. But it's funny I got excoriated for saying the same thing about him that many of you have said about him, that his game preparation and game day coaching could be better.
I also don't expect you to like Marcus Freeman or respect him or what he's done so far. I know how college football fans are. But some of the things I read here are just bogus, that he's done no better at ND than BK did. What we're happy about is he's elevated ND to be able to beat top 10 teams and at least be in the conversation and look like they belong on the field. You can caveat NIL, etc., all you want, but the fact is BK had some horrendous losses also at ND to terrible teams and routinely
got blown out in big games.
Having said that, BK himself said he needed better players in order to compete. He and most of you won't say it or admit it but he needs those types of players to overcome his game preparation and game day coaching. So yes, he can and probably will win one or more national championships at LSU.
Finally, most ND fans are grateful BK elevated the program to a much higher level. I know I am and was
disappointed he left. But I'm happy Freeman is the coach and we'll see how he does going forward.
I came on this board three years ago to give you my assessment of Brian Kelly as a coach. My opinion hasn't changed. He's a good coach. He finds diamonds in the rough and develops players into NFL players. But it's funny I got excoriated for saying the same thing about him that many of you have said about him, that his game preparation and game day coaching could be better.
I also don't expect you to like Marcus Freeman or respect him or what he's done so far. I know how college football fans are. But some of the things I read here are just bogus, that he's done no better at ND than BK did. What we're happy about is he's elevated ND to be able to beat top 10 teams and at least be in the conversation and look like they belong on the field. You can caveat NIL, etc., all you want, but the fact is BK had some horrendous losses also at ND to terrible teams and routinely
got blown out in big games.
Having said that, BK himself said he needed better players in order to compete. He and most of you won't say it or admit it but he needs those types of players to overcome his game preparation and game day coaching. So yes, he can and probably will win one or more national championships at LSU.
Finally, most ND fans are grateful BK elevated the program to a much higher level. I know I am and was
disappointed he left. But I'm happy Freeman is the coach and we'll see how he does going forward.
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