re: I really believe we hear from the vocal minority on the O matter

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Spoiled and think they deserve championships because this is LSU 

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we think we deserve a HC that is qualified to run a side of the ball for Kentucky.

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and know that a top 15 class isn't a swing and a miss. It's very good. 

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O has beefed up the lines and given us depth that we haven't had since 2011. 

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dline players the day miles was fired.... 
2016 dline roster  

key  
alexander  
bower  
clark  
Anthony  
gilmore  
godchaux  
harper  
herron  
lacouture  
lawrence  
Logan  
neal  
valentine  
Washington  

Oline players the day miles was fired.. 

Clapp all sec 
allen 
aziz 
Boutte all sec 
Brumfield 
campbell 
cushenberry 
dodd 
malone 
magee 
pocic rimington award finalist all sec 
smith 
weathersby 

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O had a hell of a comeback last year after a loss that would have thrown any other team into an absolute spira

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after troy we didn't beat a single team with less than 4 losses.

after auburn we beat 1 team with less than 6 losses.

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If you TRULY feel disgusted with the program hop off the bandwagon. You aren't the first nor the last. 

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:lol:

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We fired the last guy because his philosophy was rooted in the 70s and he refused to adapt when it mattered. If we showed a breath of life on offense in big games it would have been a completely different story. 

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bullshite.

if we beat wisky and auburn miles isn't fired. I swear some of you actually believe the optics of an offense outweigh winning and losing.

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running a winning type modern offense he would still be here even with some bad losses.

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bullshite.

you're saying it better to lose pretty than win ugly.

I can't believe you're gonna sit here and say losing would be looked at better if we were a pass 1st team.

that crazy talk.


and again, why was it ok for you to make posts like these during miles' tenure but now we should get behind the coach regardless?

It’s just an O talking point to change expectations.

We fired Miles because we wanted someone to get us over the hump. No one saw this as a rebuild.

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We fired Miles because we wanted someone to get us over the hump. No one saw this as a rebuild.

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of course it wasn't a rebuild.
it only become a rebuild once O put us out of contention by week 5.

O himself publicly claim that they were going to make the playoffs this past year.


before miles was fired the montra was," we have more talent than any cfb program not named bama and we aren't that far behind Bama."

now it's a rebuild.


when miles was here it was,"miles is the only thing holding lsu back from winning titles."

no they claim there is a lack of talent.

since miles was fired i've seen so many posters do a complete 180 on how they judge or what they deem acceptable by our hc.

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 disagree with this. Miles was fired because he didn't adapt or change the offensive game plan. It remained predictable and that's what lead to his dismissal

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imo if we win 11 or 12 games in 2016 no way is miles fired.

people forget our 2015 offense finished above bama, Ohio State,and fsu in points per game and offensive yards per game.

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if this didn't happen under Miles, it sure isn't happening under O. You think O is getting the most out of his players? Look at the Moo State and Troy game last year. 


Look at the bowl game. Look at Canada fiasco. Look at the subsequent OC search. Whoops, there wasn't one. 


We fired Miles for a lot less than what O currently has done and spare me the "it's his first year" garbage. He said himself there was no rebuilding and now everyone is supposed to just pretend that 9-4 is better than 10-3? 

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It's really as simple as this sentence:

Miles needed to be fired, and Orgeron was not the right person to replace him.

Somehow people seem to have a hard time grasping this. It really blows my mind.

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miles was good recruiter and motivator with questionable game day coaching.

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I thought he was an outstanding recruiter but yes, I agree with the game day coaching. It wasn't every game but sometimes it was a little more tense than need be.

O is a good recruiter when he was focused solely on his needs, what I mean is the DL. And for him to publicly say, "I trust no one's judgement by my own" regarding recruiting is a slap in the face to all his assistants if you asked me. If that's how he feels, then you say that garbage behind closed doors, probably with the same results though.

I just can't figure out why Alleva hired a guy that has never run a successful program. I thought the interim part was something to get optimistic about but I was very mistaken.

You and I have had our little differences about that topic but you were correct there, I was wrong.

I can't believe that this is going at LSU. I thought of this the other day, this is the lowest recruiting class ranking prior to Miles getting hired and even at that, we had already won an SEC championship by 2002 which was the last time we had this current recruiting class ranking, if memory serves.

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Miles needed to be fired, and Orgeron was not the right person to replace him. Somehow people seem to have a hard time grasping this. It really blows my mind.

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I think we get it.. but some regret it because we didn't see Alleva hiring about the one guy who didn't bring anything new to the table. A far inferior Les Miles. A guy who doesn't lock down either side of the ball, isn't an x and o's guy, and now isn't an elite recruiter as HC.

Miles did need to go, but if you told me Alleva was going to just promote in house (save maybe Aranda) I would absolutely NEVER be down for that. I'll never forget the Missouri players that went nuts when they gave their linemen interim coach the full time job.. they were all excited too..