re: I really believe we hear from the vocal minority on the O matter

Have another

OP you missed all together. Most of the objections against O are from those of us who have been with LSU for decades, invested in LSU- we don't run our businesses the way our AD is running the program and we don't understand why JA and O are being allowed to destruct our program.

And as an FYI unless O has a disaster of a season we will have him for an additional year- in 2020 JS's contract is up and he and O will be shown the door in 2021 if the program has not been turned around

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These things take time, regardless of the coach.

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uh, this wasn't a rebuild.

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These things take time, regardless of the coach.

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Les Miles won the West in his frist year while dealing with not 1 but 2 hurricanes.

your comment is bad and you should feel bad.

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1st off let's get this notion that we are supposed to be a perennial power out of our head.

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12th winningest program of all FBS

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O has beefed up the lines and given us depth that we haven't had since 2011.

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link? this sounds more like opinion than fact.

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O had a hell of a comeback last year after a loss that would have thrown any other team into an absolute spiral...Don't give me that duke riley shite.

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ok I won't. Gus Malzahn lost that game with some horrific play calls. member when LSU fans were irate at O not going for it on 4th down in the bowl game? that was auburn fans in October.

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The fact of the matter is we have what we have and nothing any of you say or do is going to change any of it

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you realize your own sage advice applies to you. so trying to tell other people to stop bitching is an exercise in futility. heres a thought: don't let strangers on the internet ruffle your feathers.

actually, just the opposite.

most of us were in the stadium in the late 80s and 90s and saw what crap looked like.
and we watched the shift from a solid program to crap.

without even trying, LSU has every built in advantage you could possibly ask for.
Location
Access to talent
Fan support
Facilities
Money

with those advantages in place, there is no excuse to not be consistently among the very best in the country.

and even in the 90s, we were saying that we should be competing for titles and the crap we were watching wasn’t good enough.

then came late 99/00.
Emmeret hired Saban and proved us right.

that with strong leadership, LSU could climb the mountain and stay there.

even Skip and Miles were strong enough leaders to keep us there a while.

now with Alleva and O, we’re back to how thing we’re done pre-‘00.
hires are being made that only make sense from a political standpoint rather than a football one.

that’s how the true decline of football started.
and it was nearly 20 years before we dug ourselves out of it completely.

those of us old enough to have seen it all, know this is how it starts.
and we don’t want to “wait and see” us hit the bottom again before fixing it.

I was responding to this post you fricking genius

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lived through the 90’s and the last guy was fired because he wasn’t competing for championships

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And as an FYI unless O has a disaster of a season we will have him for an additional year- in 2020

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No way he stays that long.

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I believe that most of the posters on here bitching about O are of two categories:

1. Too young to remember the bad LSU days (I am included here)
2. Spoiled and think they deserve championships because this is LSU

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Clearly you are too young.

My first year in college was 1980 @ LSU. That year we got a coach who was a former assistant and was hired because our original hire to replace our longtime coach who “retired” was tragically killed in a plane crash. Stovall was a former player and former LSU assistant coach who had no real interests from other places and considered LSU his dream job. He had an up and down tenure that ended in his firing.

Subsequent to that a great hire was made in Bill Arnsparger, one of the best coaches LSU has had. When he left, we hired one of the hot young defensive names at the time, who happened to be on the LSU staff as the DC. This was on the recommendation of the Departing head coach over candidates with some head coaching experience. Initially, it looked like a good hire, with an initial season of 10-1-1, 5-1-1 in the SEC with a #5 ranking followed by 8-4 but 6-1 in the SEC and a 19-18 victory over Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Finished #19 in one poll. Fell off the cliff after that. Led to hiring Curly Hallman

I think a great many fans see the current situation as having elements of both Stovall and Archer. I hope O proves me wrong but I am concerned. Archer couldn’t recruit, O can but recruiting as a head coach is different than as a position coach.

I am not spoiled, nor do I think we deserve a championship. I think fans have a right to expect better results from program many think is an elite destination. We have a right to expect to be competitive in terms of getting a playoff spot. We had a coach who proved capable of that and fired him. Should we not hold his replacement to the same standard.

Hopefully he will quiet my misgivings, though I am not optimistic. And I am generally optimistic.

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1. Too young to remember the bad LSU days (I am included here)
2. Spoiled and think they deserve championships because this is LSU

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1: I'll be 48 in June. While I look quite young, I've been following LSU football religiously since Dalton Hilliard's first game. Define that how you will...

2: False. We don't deserve anything but an administration that is striving to keep LSU in the position it has earned for itself over the past decade and a half. Programs rise and fall, and LSU is STILL in a position to remain in that lofty Top 10 type program status...but, we seem hellbent on attempting to dismantle what we have. It's like someone is working form the outside to destroy our program, but in reality we're doing it to ourselves.

There's nothing spoiled about expecting that LSU's athletic director would hire a coach WITHOUT a losing career head coaching record to take over for a coach who had won a national title who himself had taken over for a coach who had won a national title. There is not amount of spin or accusation that will make this hire not abysmal or convince anyone who sees it for what it is change their opinion on the matter.

Grad degree from LSU.

Been a fan since watching the Charlie McClendon show on Sunday mornings in 1966.


And your post is shite and you’re a dumbass.