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re: I don't like the toss lead
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:33 am to TigerBlood17
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:33 am to TigerBlood17
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Name one other team, pro or college, that you have seen run it?
Georgia
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I'm just saying the play does not seem to be as effective relative to other run plays.
I thought someone broke down the stats and it was actually more effective
Sure looked good here
LINK
We obviously think giving the running back extra time with the ball is more beneficial. NFL teams are less likely to have the advantage we have
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 7:38 am
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:33 am to TigerBlood17
I used to like it less than I do now.
On a different note, 30 years from now when people talk about the Les era, the toss power will be the play everyone remembers. It's the bread and butter play of LSU football in the Miles Era.
On a different note, 30 years from now when people talk about the Les era, the toss power will be the play everyone remembers. It's the bread and butter play of LSU football in the Miles Era.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:38 am to TigerBait1127
quote:if this is true, then I stand corrected...
I thought someone broke down the stats and it was actually more effective
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:41 am to TigerBlood17
How was knowledge gained by the OP's post?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:41 am to TigerBlood17
Do you honestly think that anyone related to LSU football cares if you like it or not?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:42 am to MOT
I don't have stats, but recent memory has me liking this play. It seems like our Offensive lineman tear the defense up on this one. Is this the play where the Guard pulls over the center? If so, this is a recipe for a 3 yard gain at minimum.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 7:46 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:43 am to TigerBlood17
It really isn't much different than a regular lead except the running back gets the ball deeper. Advantageous if your running back has good vision.
The NFL features more single back sets and wants the ball in the QBs hand as much as possible
The NFL features more single back sets and wants the ball in the QBs hand as much as possible
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:45 am to Prominentwon
quote:no, my opinion means nothing.
Do you honestly think that anyone related to LSU football cares if you like it or not?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:48 am to Placebeaux
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Wasn't it a toss lead that Charles Scott scored on against Georgia a few years back?
if you're talking about the game winner, no I'm pretty sure that was out of the gun and looked more like a zone read where the QB gave (if memory serves).
Ridley did win the clusterfrick ending 2010 Tenn game off the toss dive though.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:48 am to GhostStoryTiger
I don't recall seeing any defense really act like they think it's a sweep. Most of the time it just seems like it results in 1 maybe 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Seems like an easy read for the defense and easy stop.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:49 am to TigerBlood17
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:50 am to texastigerr
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Most of the time it just seems like it results in 1 maybe 2 yards and a cloud of dust.
Then you haven't really been paying attention, and it isn't designed to score a TD on every play anyway.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:51 am to TigerBlood17
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Name one other team, pro or college, that you have seen run it?
Stanford
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:54 am to TigerBait1127
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Sure looked good here
that was a nice little wrinkle with the power play/ La'el pulling from the backside. we don't always do that.
also, to the OP, the reverse vs Bama to Peterson in 2010 was off a toss to the RB first. so, you can run some manner of trickery out of it.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:56 am to TigerBlood17
Came in expecting to downvote, but OP makes valid points.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:57 am to TigerBlood17
Considering it's a power play, there really isn't much need for deception.. You can fake the toss and rollout but the play is designed to get the ball quickly into your RB to allow him to make his decision on where to attack.. It's usually used as down and distance play allowing the offense to get into better sets.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:58 am to TigerBlood17
Can't run play action? What about the fake toss naked boot leg?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:58 am to Tony The Tiger
I'm not saying it has never worked, I'm just saying that I like other run plays we run better. I could give you one hundred you tube links of runs not named the toss lead that go for big plays but I won't. The Iowa game kinda proves my point. Yes the first run went for big yardage, but we ran it about 12 times the rest of the game and it was not very effective. The big runs by hill the rest of the game came on traditional handoff type runs.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:06 am to TigerBlood17
It's Miles favorite play. DWI
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:10 am to Speck
Oh because it's miles favorite play means that fans can't discuss it on a public forum?...ok
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