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re: How much does a win against Miami change attitudes here?

Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:37 pm to
Just like this season I take every game, hire, move, presser, and signing period as a 'milestone' that tips the scales.

Right now a win against Miami has Orgeron firmly in the 'bought time' balance position. With the caveat that the hires on the offensive side of the ball have to show up. A win, no matter the differential, with an impressive offense is pretty much required.

Because in this scale balance, 3 hires have to work out- Ensminger, Sullivan, and Cregg. Sullivan and Cregg are the position coaches for the two squads that need the most work to go with CSE in his new OC position.

At the beginning of last year both the OL and WRs started the season unprepared. Mistake filled and poor attention to detail. The OL had somewhat of an excuse, but it is what it is. That's why there's spring and summer camps.

If the players for those two groups don't come out and perform AND look prepared in the grand scheme AND Ensminger doesn't have a productive scheme then it's a double-whammy: Bad hires and bad game.

It won't go down this way, but that double whammy would tip the scales too far by a hair in my book. I think Orgeron has this full season no matter what (unless Alleva is fired AND we have an implosion, would take both).
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26516 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:40 pm to
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Beat their arse so the rant stops sucking.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62080 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Stay negative Mo...never change.....the world needs miserable pricks too.


Meh. I’m not miserable, nor am I a prick. Stack your chips on Alleva and O if you want.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14102 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:47 pm to
Don’t care about that game. Wins over State, Ole Miss, UF, UGA, Bama, Aggy, & Arky will impress me. Nothing less
Posted by LSUInTheBR
Member since Oct 2017
789 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Yeah previous staff was money in openers, if the goalposts haven't moved again.


It looks like they have. We are talking about being optimistic after a theoretical win against Cryami. Oh how people forget that LSU is about competing for Championships, not a flipping participation trophy.
Posted by jman
Member since Feb 2007
602 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:01 pm to
If we beat the crap out of them we might get momentum and have a good year.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71494 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:05 pm to
Miami is weird. They looked good then they didn't.

Any ways, I am sure it would calm things down.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:08 pm to
any win is a good win.

a win vs a ranked team is a great win.

I hope LSU beats them. South Florida recruiting. Richt.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113073 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:20 pm to
We have 6 games that we should win and 6 games that could go either way...A Miami loss would definitely escalate the hatred lots have for Ed, and a win would only put them on hold.



Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61625 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:25 pm to
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How much does a win against Miami change attitudes here?



It would change attitudes for 2 weeks.
Posted by Pappy82
Metairie
Member since Jul 2016
145 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:25 pm to
It should but I have a feeling it won't. Many people want O's head no matter what!
I think if O went undefeated their would still be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21631 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:25 pm to
Beating a team that’s lost 3 in a row isn’t that big of a deal
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62080 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:35 pm to
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t should but I have a feeling it won't. Many people want O's head no matter what! I think if O went undefeated their would still be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Aww, poor O. All he’s done is win, but horrible people just want to get rid of him.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170286 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:40 pm to
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Don’t care about that game

I'm sure you'd care if we lost though
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:41 pm to
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Stack your chips on Alleva and O if you want.




no way jose. I was serious when I said I want O gone and no longer support the man.
I just don't see any reason to give up hope on a game we could possibly win thats still 8 months away.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 8:29 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170286 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:42 pm to
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Beating a team that’s lost 3 in a row isn’t that big of a deal

It's still a top 25 team on a neutral field. The game is more pivotal than you think. And it will tell us a lot about what type off off-season prep we had. One way or another
Posted by tigerfan92
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
523 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:44 pm to
Hey Jack Daniel, you need some cheese with that whine ?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:49 pm to
I don’t think a win in that single game will make much of a difference.

In the flip side, a loss would be disasterous for him. His seat will be scorching hot.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38370 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:53 pm to
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but does an impressive showing and a win against Miami calm people down some?




Immediately? No. And only misguided fans would think it does. We won't know what the value of a win over Miami is for at least 4-5 games.

Beating Miami who then goes on to win 4 or 5 games straight...that's a good win. Beat Miami who continues to lose the next 4 or 5 games....not so good.

Trying to find these "glimmers" of hope is just an shorthand version of "we have to see how this plays out."

O needs to show he can consistently beat quality teams, and won't know that in Week 1, win or lose.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 7:54 pm
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