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SlowFlowPro
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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c'mon. we lost Surtain. no more or no less.

uh

we also lost washington and goodrich b/c we mishandled recruiting the final month


cajunbuck
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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Yes O is a big upgrade!


hit me in my dm baw, wouldn't mind buying some of that good shite from ya


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OU812
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
GrandDad and Boxcar are those old men you see at your local convience store sitting around talking about how great things were back in their day over 12 cups of coffee at 5 am everyday!


Icansee4miles
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
Downgrade


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SlowFlowPro
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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GrandDad and Boxcar are those old men you see at your local convience store sitting around talking about how great things were back in their day over 12 cups of coffee at 5 am everyday!

old man coffee


Sarge
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
I think boxcar is Derek.....

Dude talks and thinks O is the greatest hire in LSU history.


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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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GrandDad and Boxcar are those old men you see at your local convience store sitting around talking about how great things were back in their day over 12 cups of coffee at 5 am everyday!

Coincidentally, this is also the same setting in which LSU football now conducts a weekly job fair.


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Jaydeaux
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
Sooo we just had our worst class in over 10 years coming off historic losses and the guy is an upgrade? Lol. Not to mention both his coordinators were hired by Les
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Mayhawman
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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It did pretty good under Ensminger
Calling plays from previous staff playsheet.
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I still liked Canadas offense better than Camerons/MIles.
Only your disdain for Miles would distort the view of truth, being worse than 10/11 of Miles offenses. Sad.
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The team still played gritty and tough after the Bama loss something it never did after Miles when the team would just give up every year.
Another jaded opinion that is totally untrue.
LSU was 13-9 after losses to Bama, 9-5 since 2011 before you try cherry picking.
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In fact it was a pretty gritty bunch starting with right after the Troy loss. Liked the attitude of the team.
I'm onboard with that.



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BigSquirrel
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
I would have said he gets the team ready to play better than Miles, before Troy. He handles the clock better for sure, there’s that! The most impressive thing to me was the turn around the team made last year after the tie to Troy. And when Ensminger took over the offense after Miles got fired, he did amazing. I know the QB/RB situation isn’t good right now, but I’m in for this year. Going to be better than what Miles would have run up the middle for.


Tiger1988
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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OM was pretty damn good

On offense - then Patterson got hurt...
We could run on anyone except Bama.


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boxcar willie
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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Dude talks and thinks O is the greatest hire in LSU history.


naw, just believe in giving him a chance before calling for his head. Same as I would for any coach we hired.

now back to the theme of the thread:

I had forgot about better clock management.
Also Miles was 10-8 in SEC play over his last 2 and one quarter seasons here at LSU.

Oregeron was 6-2 in sec play his first season as head coach.

so in summery:
1. after the Troy loss the team displayed a grittiness ( reflection of there coach) that they haven't displayed in years under MIles.
2. Better clock managemanet
3. Best SEC record in years
4. Believes in passing the ball on offense
5. central philosophy on offense isn't "imposing ones will " on the defense. But rather lets use strategy and attack their weekness. If they are stacking the box then lets pass the ball or go around them, not show our "toughness' by running straight into them.
6.team looks more organized. NOt constantly running the play clock down still trying to figure out what is going on looking all confused.
7. is a 'players coach' as was Miles but still want to throw that in. The players like playing for him which will benefit him in recruiting just was tough this year with opposing coaches being able to show borderline recruits 'the rant' and the type culture and people they will be playing in front of.
8. recruited 'the beef' which has been a problem with Miles recruiting for years now.

Probably other things if I thought about it but that is enough right there



edit: but really out of all those things, #5 is the one that counts the most and the one that was the reason it was time for Miles to go. I loved Coach MIles but he just refused to change. Its a shame. If only he could have parted from Cameron and hired someone like Ensminger, for example, things could have been different here.

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tigercreole
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
He tried a new offense.

I'm out of bullets.


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Brazos
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
Um did you say we tied Troy? That's news to me.


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Chimlim
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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If only he could have parted from Cameron and hired someone like Ensminger, for example, things could have been different here.


#5 is moot because your boy O fired his hand picked offensive coordinator after 1 season.

How many times do we have to go through this, Ensminger did not WANT to be offensive coordinator, even under Miles. After Canada was fired, no one wanted this job, not even Ensminger. Coach O had to talk him into it.
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Freauxzen
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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naw, just believe in giving him a chance before calling for his head. Same as I would for any coach we hired.


You shouldn't. He isn't the same type of hire. The goal was that Ed was valuable because we could win now with a coach who wouldn't meddle, and would hire the best coordinators and let them coach. Not that he needed 3 years to rebuild his program or install HIS program.

O and the reason we hired him are not similar to most coaching hires (outside of your Larry Cokers), therefore, he doesn't get as big of a buffer and big results have to come immediately. That's the disconnect. Hiring Ed was not the same as hiring another coach who would be installing a program.
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Rickdaddy4188
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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He was one of the first OC's to use the Spread. 





thanks for this


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Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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c'mon. we lost Surtain. no more or no less. other than that this class met needs more than Miles LATER CLASSES di



holy shite.



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ibldprplgld
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?


No. Recruiting was supposed to be O's huge selling point, and that, so far, looks to be a downgrade from Miles.

Damnit, Miles. Why couldn't you have just fixed your damn offense. I still contend a Miles coached team with a modern and competent offense would have LSU back in the playoff discussion.


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theunknownknight
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?


Same results record wise for half the price.



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