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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?

Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:31 am to
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man you are so much smarter than these people I don't know how stay at it argueing with retards. 



classic.

you don't know shite about football and have proven it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:35 am to
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You shouldn't. He isn't the same type of hire. The goal was that Ed was valuable because we could win now with a coach who wouldn't meddle, and would hire the best coordinators and let them coach. Not that he needed 3 years to rebuild his program or install HIS program. 

O and the reason we hired him are not similar to most coaching hires (outside of your Larry Cokers), therefore, he doesn't get as big of a buffer and big results have to come immediately. That's the disconnect. Hiring Ed was not the same as hiring another coach who would be installing a program.




how anyone sees it different is beyond me. ed Oregon's head coaching career is built on bad coaching and bad losses. 2017 didn't change that.
we played 1 p5 program with less than 4 losses and still lost 4 games
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:37 am to
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Same results record wise for half the price. 





the greatest coaching season of O's career is one game better than miles worst year ever at lsu.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57320 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:39 am to
But it’s still better and the same as the last two seasons of Miles

LSU got what it wanted. Go cheap and go home.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:39 am to
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But it’s still better and the same as the last two seasons of Miles  


how is 4 losses better than 3 losses?

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57320 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:43 am to
The hell you talking about - Miles was 2-2 his last season

19-10 his final 3 seasons.

Orgeron is getting the same record for half the price. That’s simply a fact.

That’s how bad Miles was at the end.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:44 am to
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He's not. It's just a continuation of the same


Well, he was a "continuity" hire. How often do you see a coach fired and then 90% of his staff remain in place? Continuity hires usually happen when a successful coach retires, and even then they rarely work.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:45 am to
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RogerTheShrubber


quote:

Orgeron will probably join him soon


Damn Rog i've been away, you seeing the light now?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10091 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:49 am to
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how is 4 losses better than 3 losses?
Yeah, I don't know where the O lovers/Mles haters lost their ability to count.
It's the epitome of denial to lose cognitive function.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57320 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:52 am to
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I don't know where the O lovers/Mles haters lost their ability to count.


I’m not an O lover. I just know how math works.

Orgeron’s Winning Percentage versus Miles final three seasons.

71.4% > 65.5%
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:57 am to
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s moot because your boy O fired his hand picked offensive coordinator after 1 season. How many times do we have to go through this, Ensminger did not WANT to be offensive coordinator, even under Miles. After Canada was fired, no one wanted this job, not even Ensminger. Coach O had to talk him into it.


so how does that make the point moot? He wanted amore modern offense and now he's got it.
Posted by ZeekFreak
Member since Jun 2017
583 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:59 am to
we had to move on from Miles, that wasn't debatable. Did we select the right guy..... it's not appearing that way but Miles with his yearly top10 or even 5 classes yielded the same product that seemed to be stuck on 9 wins and "if you're not getting better, you're getting worse" so we moved on.

with that said.... this coming season with the schedule we have....
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
2885 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:04 am to
I love the argument that the team rebounded from the Troy loss as a positive, when O was literally the reason they lost to Troy in the first place.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10091 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:05 am to
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seemed to be stuck on 9 wins

:seemless:
11 wins
13 wins
10 wins
10 wins
8 wins
10 wins (including McNeese)
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202942 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:09 am to
He doesn't understand what a fact is unless he is spewing it.....
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:10 am to
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so how does that make the point moot? He wanted amore modern offense and now he's got it.



So we now have a more modern offense by hiring an offensive coordinator who hasn't been an offensive coordinator in 20 years?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:11 am to
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He wanted amore modern offense and now he's got it.



Does he? Have you seen it? Because it's not like a coach has ever said something before only to have it turn out to be untrue.

Why didn't he go out and get his more modern offense before last season?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202942 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:11 am to
Those tens wins in 2015 included being 7-0 and ranked # 2 in the BCS standings before completely falling apart..... but dont let facts get in your way while trying to praise Miles....
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:16 am to
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Why didn't he go out and get his more modern offense before last season?


He actually did. But he fired him because he didn't like him and he wanted to play a different QB, for an OC that hasn't been a OC in two decades.

So now we have a career D-Line coach as head coach.

And a career TE coach as offensive coordinator.

We need to "hope and pray" Dave Aranda doesn't leave.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202942 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:18 am to
I must have missed the last 9 games of the 2016 season..... the offense looked pretty good except for the Bama game.....
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