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re: How did the Tigers miss on Travis Swaggerty?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:17 am to doubleb
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:17 am to doubleb
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We weren’t the only ones to miss. It appears that his last three were USA, UNO and SLU.
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Baseball recruits sign in November before their senior season starts.
If those are my 3 choices, I'm playing my senior year unsigned and taking my chances
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:22 am to GeeOH
The kid made a smart choice. He went to s solid baseball school that wanted him, a school that gave him a shot, and a school which helped him get picked 10th in the MLB draft!
LSU had no room. They had other OFers locked up.
LSU had no room. They had other OFers locked up.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:26 am to Herman
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Was a late bloomer I heard. Mainieri went on record saying he was one of the biggest misses in recruiting for the program. This happens to most programs nit just LSU. I remember Ben McDonald saying the same thing and he is connected to the Denham Springs program since he is a legend there
Seems Bertman had a knack for getting a better mix of Late bloomers(program guys) and immediate impact guys...Mainieri seems to swing for the fences every time recruiting wise and hopes to get lucky for a cws Run every 5 years. He ends up settling with some lower tier kids in the class and cant develop them fast enough or at all.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:29 am to Meatball
That’s one of the problems of recruiting kids so early. You end up missing on a lot of late bloomers.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:33 am to Tommy Patel
Bertman operated under an entirely different set of rules and was a master at it.
He could sign quality and quantity and had good contacts with scouts and coaches across the country.
He could sign quality and quantity and had good contacts with scouts and coaches across the country.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:33 am to TigerAlum93
South Alabama has always been a competitive program. They actually fell off this year. Do your research.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:36 am to Meatball
Blame the youth baseball system. It works against a kid who is either a late bloomer or really good all-around athlete. It favors the kid whose parents push baseball 365 days a year and don’t allow him to play any other sports. The vast majority of travel ball teams are made up of a bunch of 14 to 16-year-old kids who were not very big, but damn good baseball players for their age. The problem is they are not growing into the 6 foot two, 200 pound plus power player.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:36 am to 0
We have players locked up for the 2021 class right?
That tells you everything you need to know.
That tells you everything you need to know.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:39 am to Gray Tiger
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Gray Tiger
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A stupid attempt at a joke is more like it.
Paul... its ok. We can joke about your recruiting techniques and still like you.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:47 am to michael corleone
No, it's the college system that is flawed. They get commitments too early and push to have these kids sign early.
Meanwhile MLB waits till after HS, gets more info and has a better picture of the player now that he's 18 or so.
Meanwhile MLB waits till after HS, gets more info and has a better picture of the player now that he's 18 or so.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:50 am to Tommy Patel
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Seems Bertman had a knack for getting a better mix of Late bloomers(program guys) and immediate impact guys.
Easy to say they were program guys after the fact.
Fact of the matter is, Skip recruited studs just like PM does
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:51 am to Tommy Patel
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Seems Bertman had a knack for getting a better mix of Late bloomers(program guys) and immediate impact guys
You can do that when there are no limits on how many kids can be on a partial scholarship, how many can be on the roster, or scholarship minimums that must be maintained.
It's a different environment now.
For the "Best fans in college baseball" some of you people seem willfully ignorant to the realities of college baseball now compared to 20 years ago.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:55 am to Gorilla Ball
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He’s probably over 5’8” and probably weighs about 190 - doesn’t fit into our scheme
In high school he was 5'10" 165
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:55 am to doubleb
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No, it's the college system that is flawed. They get commitments too early and push to have these kids sign early.
Meanwhile MLB waits till after HS, gets more info and has a better picture of the player now that he's 18 or so.
Most sign in November of their senior year and the next window opens that Spring during the season. How late do you think schools can wait to construct their roster?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:56 am to michael corleone
quote:It's not personal, Michael, it's business.....
Blame the youth baseball system. It works against a kid who is either a late bloomer or really good all-around athlete.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:57 am to Tommy Patel
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Seems Bertman had a knack for getting a better mix of Late bloomers(program guys) and immediate impact guys...Mainieri seems to swing for the fences every time recruiting wise and hopes to get lucky for a cws Run every 5 years. He ends up settling with some lower tier kids in the class and cant develop them fast enough or at all.
Yeah Bertman had no roster limits to deal with, so he could sign as many kids as he wanted to.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:18 am to ProjectP2294
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It's a different environment now.
I get that, it just seems other teams have figured it out a little better than we have.....i'm really just sour, I'll admit it.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
There were scholarship limits back then, also.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:59 am to ProjectP2294
It’s also easier for kids to bloom late when they ingest a steady diet of andro from day 1 on campus.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:00 am to LSUFanMizeWay
quote:Exactly. People don't know what their talking about.
There were scholarship limits back then, also.
Now, contrast Bertman's era to that of Ron Dedeaux's at U$C and it is a world of difference.
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