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Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:03 pm to JakeRStephenes
without reading all of the above, don`t know all of the details..maybe it was done intentionally? ?
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:08 pm to mmcgrath
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I know you are jelly of Coach O, but do you really think the head coach goes over class schedules??? This isn't even a responsibility for the football staff. This is on Woody's staff.
Absolutely a requirement for staff of the sport in which a student athlete is a part of. Mostly done by a low level GA / barely paid staffer but it’s just one more detail that eludes someone in over his head when it comes to running a program.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:10 pm to The Pirate King
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I don’t think any football people would deal with eligibility and academic planning.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:28 pm to CP3forMVP
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Kid takes a summer course, passes said summer course, then NCAA rules him ineligible because he was placed in the wrong class.
I find this very hard to believe. There are several check points for athlete courses. Not only do they meet with Cox reps, their courses are also approved by someone in the college of their major and there is a compliance person in admissions who verifies the schedule. He would be declared ineligible by the compliance officer not the NCAA. My guess is the course required a grade of “C” in order to apply to the degree and he got a “D” or did not pass at all.
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:32 pm to CP3forMVP
So is he done for the year?
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:36 pm to CP3forMVP
Obviously someone screwed up if the real reason is that Emery took the wrong course. I'm not sure I buy it as the reason Emery isn't playing.
BUT if that IS the reason, I can't blame it on Orgeron, even if I blame him for everything else we're seeing with the football team.
The athletic department has academic advisers for the athletes who are responsible for reviewing the athletes' schedules every semester to make sure they stay eligible and are taking the proper courses. They even direct the athletes to the proper professors. They direct every step of an athlete's academic career from their first day on campus.
It's not Orgeron's job to review degree requirements and class schedules. No head football coach does that.
BUT if that IS the reason, I can't blame it on Orgeron, even if I blame him for everything else we're seeing with the football team.
The athletic department has academic advisers for the athletes who are responsible for reviewing the athletes' schedules every semester to make sure they stay eligible and are taking the proper courses. They even direct the athletes to the proper professors. They direct every step of an athlete's academic career from their first day on campus.
It's not Orgeron's job to review degree requirements and class schedules. No head football coach does that.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:40 pm to red sox fan 13
Totally inexcusable
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:59 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
quote:With all of the major sports at LSU there is no way you would rely on each sport's staff to dedicate to this. How could you expect them to retain the knowledge with the turnover on any given team's staff?
Absolutely a requirement for staff of the sport in which a student athlete is a part of. Mostly done by a low level GA / barely paid staffer but it’s just one more detail that eludes someone in over his head when it comes to running a program
I am sure the head coach gets updates on who is eligible or not, but he can't be expected to manage class schedules.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:09 pm to mmcgrath
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How could you expect them to retain the knowledge with the turnover on any given team's staff?
because being wrong could cost you the eligibility of a stud you need.
so you dedicate whatever you need to make sure your guys are eligible to play.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:12 pm to BlueDogTiger
They’re busy tracking down Ganja, Weed, Smoke, Devil’s Lettuce, herb,pot, broccoli, chronic, sticky yicky, skunk, boom, bobo bush, ashes, cripple, dagger, Dunkirk Dow, jolly green, roaches and blunts. That’s too much work for them to worry about trying to get a player to class.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:34 pm to 1999
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But you don’t have time to do that when you are chasing tail.
It's not his job. He has a small village of assistants, analysts, and lackeys that fans are paying to keep players eligible.
It little wonder athletes have no sense of responsibility when they leave college.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:35 pm to BillF
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Obviously someone screwed up if the real reason is that Emery took the wrong course. I'm not sure I buy it as the reason Emery isn't playing.
BUT if that IS the reason, I can't blame it on Orgeron, even if I blame him for everything else we're seeing with the football team.
The athletic department has academic advisers for the athletes who are responsible for reviewing the athletes' schedules every semester to make sure they stay eligible and are taking the proper courses. They even direct the athletes to the proper professors. They direct every step of an athlete's academic career from their first day on campus.
It's not Orgeron's job to review degree requirements and class schedules. No head football coach does that.
Pretty much all of this. Also, my understanding is that the Academic Center for Student Athletes (AKA the Cox Center) is technically part of Academic Affairs.
That said, I’m sure there would be dotted line reporting to the Athletic Department. To some extent, you would think the ACSA employees assigned to football would also give regular updates to Orgeron himself. But they don’t work for him and I’m not ready to blame Orgeron for an Academic Affairs / Compliance frick up.
It makes sense to hold Orgeron accountable for Emery’s actions - for example, winding up in academic hot water in the first place. But if there was indeed a scheduling mistake that prevented him from getting back on track, that’s not something I would expect the head football coach to catch. He has to rely on the academic support staff in that area.
Either way we are almost certainly not getting the whole story. There’s probably plenty of blame to go around. If Emery was relying on a single summer class to remain academically eligible, then it sounds like a lot went wrong to even get to that point.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:36 pm to BlueDogTiger
THIS^^^^^
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:56 pm to The Pirate King
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That sounds like an issue with the cox center for student athletes, I don’t think any football people would deal with eligibility and academic planning.
Better question is why the NCAA even knows about this
Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:58 pm to The Pirate King
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That sounds like an issue with the cox center for student athletes, I don’t think any football people would deal with eligibility and academic planning.
This. It’s an issue that the staff needs to get involved in now, but this is not something they would handle on a day to day basis. Someone’s head should definitely roll over this, if true.
There are plenty of things to be angry at O about, but these are things that should be handled without him or the staff being directly involved. That goes for any athletic staff.
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/12/21 at 3:24 pm to JakeRStephenes
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any course he takes should count toward a General Studies degree.
This isn’t true.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 3:52 pm to misey94
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There are plenty of things to be angry at O about, but these are things that should be handled without him or the staff being directly involved. That goes for any athletic staff.
BULL shite already called by an ex athlete . So it is Os fault
Posted on 9/12/21 at 4:02 pm to MakeMoney
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This whole thing is crazy and why I hate this entire organization. Always a clown show, every year. Suspensions by the dozens, ineligible players, high profile kids leaving the program, etc. This is a kindergarten compared to other programs. You think Saban would let
That is what sticks out to me. It's been suspensions and all around shite show.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 4:58 pm to CP3forMVP
This is deflection. What’s really going on ?
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