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re: Explain to me WHY Joe Brady should STAY at LSU?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:45 am to RedMan2
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:45 am to RedMan2
Coaching Football is a business. He’ll stay or go based on a business decision. The right situation along with the right money will be the deciding factors.
I’m a fan. I want him to stay but to be honest it’s a job similar to all other jobs. If you’re really good at what you do you get raises and promotions. Sometimes the competition comes in and makes an offer you can’t refuse (no pun intended).
He’ll do what he feels is best for himself and his future.
I’m a fan. I want him to stay but to be honest it’s a job similar to all other jobs. If you’re really good at what you do you get raises and promotions. Sometimes the competition comes in and makes an offer you can’t refuse (no pun intended).
He’ll do what he feels is best for himself and his future.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:46 am to BestBanker
$$$$
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:47 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Sure, he could get a big payday. But if he fails, he will forever be a one-hit wonder.
That could just as easily happen at LSU
So here’s what’s going to happen:
He’s going to secure the bag, first and foremost because he owes that to himself after the year he just had.
I think that will be with LSU with the short term. But I think LSU also includes a buyout like they did with Dave aranda, one where they clearly support his aspirations to move up. Dave has no buyout if he takes an nfl job or a HC gig. Making it friendly for him to move up in his career
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:49 am to RedMan2
He's 30 years old and making 1.5 million a year gets you a NICE life in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:49 am to RedMan2
Learn how to be an OC for a couple of years before being thrown into the NFL fire.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:50 am to RedMan2
Money...or the opportunity to make even more money over a shortened time frame (as the future OC in two years).
The OC position at LSU pays very well. Throw in the fact that the opposition at the college level (especially at LSU) is not what he would see in the pro ranks. That should mean sustained success and more money as a head coach down the road.
In short...short term success (the next 5 years at LSU) could lead to generational wealth long term (ironically, with the easiest path imho).
The OC position at LSU pays very well. Throw in the fact that the opposition at the college level (especially at LSU) is not what he would see in the pro ranks. That should mean sustained success and more money as a head coach down the road.
In short...short term success (the next 5 years at LSU) could lead to generational wealth long term (ironically, with the easiest path imho).
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:51 am to RedMan2
29 posts.yeah, not biting troll!
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:54 am to Penrod
After reading the posts on this board, I wonder what his leaving the Saints has done too them? Joe Brady has done more for LSU than he would have ever done at N.O., But now that we have made the change, what will he carry with him if he leaves, that we can't repeat? Don't get me wrong, I think he will be a find coach at LSU or where ever, But he could be replaced.....Bringing us out of the Ice Age came from Coach O.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:57 am to RedMan2
There's not another job in college he should be looking at. In the absolutely worst case scenario, he's about to become the OC making over a million a year for the national championship runner up with a chance to prove it was his scheme and not one individual player that provided the most dynamic offense in the country.
All bets are off when NFL OC offers start coming in.
All bets are off when NFL OC offers start coming in.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:58 am to RedMan2
Because he’s going to get paid as much here as anywhere else right now. As top OC money.
He already knows he enjoys working with O and E, so why should he leave for any type of lateral move and a potential unknown relationship. Again, he’s going to get paid here.
He already has excellent chemistry with his players here. LSU is and will always be talented while established. If it was all Burrow then what about most of last year?
Brennan has been leading scoring drives in garbage time. Seems like he can have success regardless of QB.
He still is inexperienced. How do we know just how much of the success is E and Brady?
All things being equal, wouldn’t you think he would stay loyal to LSU as long as reasonably possible?
He’s got a pretty sweet and badass gig here.
You say why should he stay.. I say why should he leave? Leaving is actually a bigger risk and unknown.
He already knows he enjoys working with O and E, so why should he leave for any type of lateral move and a potential unknown relationship. Again, he’s going to get paid here.
He already has excellent chemistry with his players here. LSU is and will always be talented while established. If it was all Burrow then what about most of last year?
Brennan has been leading scoring drives in garbage time. Seems like he can have success regardless of QB.
He still is inexperienced. How do we know just how much of the success is E and Brady?
All things being equal, wouldn’t you think he would stay loyal to LSU as long as reasonably possible?
He’s got a pretty sweet and badass gig here.
You say why should he stay.. I say why should he leave? Leaving is actually a bigger risk and unknown.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:03 am to RedMan2
Job security - he has complete job security at LSU at the moment and a stable coaching staff that won't change any time soon. This affords him the ability to get OC experience at the highest level in CFB before making the jump to the NFL when he is ready.
The places currently looking for OC's are either bad NFL teams or CFB teams that don't have the talent level of LSU to run the system and he would be starting from scratch.
His best move is to take the OC job at LSU next year or year after (whatever the staff decides). Get the experience of running the entire offense (not just the passing game) and then make his jump to the NFL where I expect he will be very successful.
The places currently looking for OC's are either bad NFL teams or CFB teams that don't have the talent level of LSU to run the system and he would be starting from scratch.
His best move is to take the OC job at LSU next year or year after (whatever the staff decides). Get the experience of running the entire offense (not just the passing game) and then make his jump to the NFL where I expect he will be very successful.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:03 am to RedMan2
He is young and obviously a hot name but, hopefully, being around O, Ensminger, and some of the older coaches/ analysts he has a lot to learn about being “the man”. I definitely do not think he is ready to be OC in NFL. Maybe, another year at LSU with more responsibilities will help. Lots of pressure will be on him to keep the train rolling and to further develop a new QB (new to starting in this system)
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:05 am to RedMan2
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Explain to me WHY Joe Brady should STAY at LSU?
Because the worst most stressful thing someone can do is get in over their head. This is his first paying coaching job. He has a great X's and O's mind and probably has some really good management skills but at LSU he has a support system to help him along the way. His chance of success is high here because of that. LSU will pay him what it takes to keep him.
If he goes to another NCAA spot or an NFL job the pressure to perform at the highest level is immediate. Also if he jumps to an OC spot then he has all the responsibility for everything immediately.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:06 am to RedMan2
Reasons:
1. He is being paid over $400,000 a year at LSU. That is good money for a college offensive coach. The highest paid offensive coach in the country is Pep Hamilton at $1.45 million. He makes more than any offensive coordinator in the country. Defensive coordinators are paid more, like the $2.45 million LSU is paying Aranda.
2. Brady will get a raise to an amount that will be more than the vast majority of schools pay their OCs.
3. He is under contract until 2022 with LSU, so if he leaves he has to make enough to cover his buy out. Unlikely he will be paid that much after one year.
4. He will be the OC in waiting.
5. No school can offer a better recruiting base, so if he goes to another school not named Bama, Clemson or OSU he will likely have less talent to work with.
6. LSU has a track record of paying its assistant coaches well. He knows he will be taken care of here.
Basically, he can cash in on his success as well at LSU as anywhere else and he has a career path at LSU for the next several years.
1. He is being paid over $400,000 a year at LSU. That is good money for a college offensive coach. The highest paid offensive coach in the country is Pep Hamilton at $1.45 million. He makes more than any offensive coordinator in the country. Defensive coordinators are paid more, like the $2.45 million LSU is paying Aranda.
2. Brady will get a raise to an amount that will be more than the vast majority of schools pay their OCs.
3. He is under contract until 2022 with LSU, so if he leaves he has to make enough to cover his buy out. Unlikely he will be paid that much after one year.
4. He will be the OC in waiting.
5. No school can offer a better recruiting base, so if he goes to another school not named Bama, Clemson or OSU he will likely have less talent to work with.
6. LSU has a track record of paying its assistant coaches well. He knows he will be taken care of here.
Basically, he can cash in on his success as well at LSU as anywhere else and he has a career path at LSU for the next several years.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:06 am to RedMan2
1. To gain more overall experience in coaching as a OC and Quarterbacks coach from Steve Ensminger. Ensminger has also coached QB's and TE's and can teach Joe the nuances of those positions.
2. Learn from Coach O how to be a HC and run an entire program. Coach O can speak to him regarding his failures early on at Ole Miss, and how he's learned from his mistakes and what he is now doing differently to be successful.
3. Gain more experience as a college recruiter. Learn how to gain the trust of a recruit and their family that you will look out for his best interest, and show him some tough love if he get's out of line.
4. How to deal suspensions and academic issues that arise in your program. Most university suspensions are after multiple issues, so how do you handle internal team discipline?
5. As a head coach, what traits do you look for and need as you hire staff and how to manage your staff. Are you going to be a micro-manager or will you allow your staff some autonomy to do their job?
6. Money! LSU has to pay him very well so that another opportunity has to pay him much better than his current salary. Pay Brady $1.5 M per year. Example Dave Aranda earns $2.5 M per year. No way he's leaving to become a head coach at any University that Pays $1M or less like a UNLV.
There is a lot more to becoming a HC or OC than X's and O's. It's about becoming a leader of young men, a leader of your staff, and the ability to work with the academic side of administration as well as state politicians.
2. Learn from Coach O how to be a HC and run an entire program. Coach O can speak to him regarding his failures early on at Ole Miss, and how he's learned from his mistakes and what he is now doing differently to be successful.
3. Gain more experience as a college recruiter. Learn how to gain the trust of a recruit and their family that you will look out for his best interest, and show him some tough love if he get's out of line.
4. How to deal suspensions and academic issues that arise in your program. Most university suspensions are after multiple issues, so how do you handle internal team discipline?
5. As a head coach, what traits do you look for and need as you hire staff and how to manage your staff. Are you going to be a micro-manager or will you allow your staff some autonomy to do their job?
6. Money! LSU has to pay him very well so that another opportunity has to pay him much better than his current salary. Pay Brady $1.5 M per year. Example Dave Aranda earns $2.5 M per year. No way he's leaving to become a head coach at any University that Pays $1M or less like a UNLV.
There is a lot more to becoming a HC or OC than X's and O's. It's about becoming a leader of young men, a leader of your staff, and the ability to work with the academic side of administration as well as state politicians.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 11:10 am
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:08 am to RedMan2
I'm hoping he's meeting some nice young LSU co eds and eating some amazing food.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:09 am to boudinman
All the above reasons PLUS his girlfriend is in Louisiana!
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:10 am to RedMan2
Your opinion doesn’t matter. No explanation needed.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:13 am to RedMan2
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:13 am to RedMan2
I believe it comes down to his future goals. Sure he could bolt to the league now. What happens if his offenses suck or his team/hc sucks? All the momentum he has will dissolve in a 1-2 year span.
He can come back to LSU, actually call plays, not have Burrow and further expand his resume. If the offense isnt as good as he'd like, colleges are insanely more forgiving of such things because of personnel changes and he'd have year 3 to try again.
It's all up to what he feels is the best path for him. I personally think all the genius talk and "hotness" of his stock is insanely premature. The guy wasn't the playcaller at LSU. His designs and things are great and very valuable but playcalling is a different animal. Also helps that he had a generational season and menta talent in Burrow. Let's see it again
He can come back to LSU, actually call plays, not have Burrow and further expand his resume. If the offense isnt as good as he'd like, colleges are insanely more forgiving of such things because of personnel changes and he'd have year 3 to try again.
It's all up to what he feels is the best path for him. I personally think all the genius talk and "hotness" of his stock is insanely premature. The guy wasn't the playcaller at LSU. His designs and things are great and very valuable but playcalling is a different animal. Also helps that he had a generational season and menta talent in Burrow. Let's see it again
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