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re: Does anyone fear or at least have concern of Chavis' influence on A&M defense?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:55 am to The Mick
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:55 am to The Mick
I am a little concerned on 1st and 2nd downs.
Fare well Third and Chavis and thanks for your time at LSU. But since you have gone to a division rival, I wish you the worst.
Fare well Third and Chavis and thanks for your time at LSU. But since you have gone to a division rival, I wish you the worst.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:58 am to The Mick
Chavis has struggled against power run offenses. LSU will not struggle against Chavis defenses.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:58 am to MightyYat
Terry Joseph is a pretty good db coach and a badass recruiter.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:59 am to The Mick
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I know their D has been bad for quite a while. However, they haven't had a proven DC like chavis. It seems if they're offense stays productive and they add just a little bit of D they can be a tough win.
How good do you think they'll be in the coming years?
Why would people be concerned with a tough win? The large majority of SEC games are tough wins.
I think they will be marginally better on defense. But the assumption that their offense has been a juggernaut and that a mid level defense would make them unbeatable is ridiculous.
If the Chavis move ends up biting us in the arse, it won't be because the A&M defenses all of a sudden started dominating. It will be because the transition between Chavis to Steel was a failure. I'M not predicting that, but it's a plausible scenario.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:01 am to The Mick
Chavis is a good DC, they'll get better but not a top tier SEC defense in the next couple of years.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:08 am to The Mick
There offense is not productive against strong defenses. Their defense will need 2 - 3 years of talent acquisition to be chavis-compatible. His defense with average talent is not special. Hope he stays healthy. Every time I see his fat belly and fiery/purple, high_blood pressure looking self I am concerned for his health. How well can sumlin identify and recruit the kind of studs he must assemble and how long will it take? How much of his recruiting laziness can be changed? There are many questions to be answered before I fear the aggie's defense. And 2015 in Tiger Stadium is much anticipated.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:10 am to The Mick
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Does anyone fear or at least have concern of Chavis' influence on A&M defense?
no. chavis cant play and their players suck
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:12 am to easy money
mark snyder (chavis' predecessor) was pretty highly regarded as a DC for osu under tressel.
had the 17th ranked D at USF in 2010 and slid to 39th in 2011 but skip holtz was running that team into the ground and talent was dwindling.
then he took over at A&M in '12. was 59th in manziel's heisman season and then was 111th in '13 before finishing 104th last yr.
maybe he forgot how to coach or maybe it's the system. which one is more likely?
i'll go so far as to say if their offense (same goes for AU) remains in the top 20, they don't need a top 20 defense. they just need to slow down other teams so stats may not matter as much. but they were 32nd in off. last yr so that's why they had the season they had.
the funny thing is, is that this (kind of team) is what most LSU fans want us to be.
had the 17th ranked D at USF in 2010 and slid to 39th in 2011 but skip holtz was running that team into the ground and talent was dwindling.
then he took over at A&M in '12. was 59th in manziel's heisman season and then was 111th in '13 before finishing 104th last yr.
maybe he forgot how to coach or maybe it's the system. which one is more likely?
i'll go so far as to say if their offense (same goes for AU) remains in the top 20, they don't need a top 20 defense. they just need to slow down other teams so stats may not matter as much. but they were 32nd in off. last yr so that's why they had the season they had.
the funny thing is, is that this (kind of team) is what most LSU fans want us to be.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 10:15 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:13 am to The Mick
by the time they start to get the personnel to run his D, Chavis will be cashing that year 3 guaranteed check he so yearned for, and will likely have checked out by that point. So no not too worried.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:17 am to TDTGodfather
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mark snyder (chavis' predecessor) was pretty highly regarded as a DC for osu under tressel.
had the 17th ranked D at USF in 2010 and slid to 39th in 2011 but skip holtz was running that team into the ground and talent was dwindling.
then he took over at A&M in '12. was 59th in manziel's heisman season and then was 111th in '13 before finishing 104th last yr.
maybe he forgot how to coach or maybe it's the system. which one is more likely?
i'll go so far as to say if their offense (same goes for AU) remains in the top 20, they don't need a top 20 defense. they just need to slow down other teams so stats may not matter as much. but they were 32nd in off. last yr so that's why they had the season they had.
Yep. The way Aggies tell it, Mark Snyder is the worst coach in the history of the sport.
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the funny thing is, is that this (kind of team) is what most LSU fans seem to want us to be.
I think most of us just want a semi-balanced attack. Maybe something like 21-27 for 180-200yds.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:17 am to The Mick
...we kill them in the 4th quarter ... 
:-)
:-)Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:18 am to The Mick
Chavis style of defense requires gap containing/space eating defensive tackles, d line depth and elite corners, along with good special teams play forcing an offense to drive the full length of the field without giving up big plays. And most importantly lots of time of possession with A&Ms offense thus his d staying off the field.
A&M has NO defensive tackles worth naming and not much depth/skill on the d line. Their secondary is a joke, combine that with the third worst time of possession team in the country last year and its a recipe for disaster. Chavis is a great defensive coord, but A&M does not have the personel and scheme to fit with him. They will improve, (can't get much worse) but by any means they will not make the giant step forward defensively that they are expecting.
A&M has NO defensive tackles worth naming and not much depth/skill on the d line. Their secondary is a joke, combine that with the third worst time of possession team in the country last year and its a recipe for disaster. Chavis is a great defensive coord, but A&M does not have the personel and scheme to fit with him. They will improve, (can't get much worse) but by any means they will not make the giant step forward defensively that they are expecting.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:19 am to The Mick
noway. he will be run out of town within 3 years.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:19 am to RagingCajun3195
His scheme relies on superior talent at all positions. No I'm not worried.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:21 am to The Mick
sure i think everyone should be if he can replicate what he had at LSU at A&M, #1 offense in SEC + #1 defense in SEC would probably = #1 team in SEC.
However there are several things that i think are going to prevent that formhappeneing
1. A&M type of offense keeps the defense not eh field too long
2. they don't have the defensive player, and they don't have the defensive recruiters to get those players
3. Their offense is often as big a problem in their losses as their defense.
However there are several things that i think are going to prevent that formhappeneing
1. A&M type of offense keeps the defense not eh field too long
2. they don't have the defensive player, and they don't have the defensive recruiters to get those players
3. Their offense is often as big a problem in their losses as their defense.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:24 am to The Mick
imo, chavis had got lazy and complacent at LSU. it seemed to me (no proof of course) that he was not proactive in recruiting and our front 7 was deteriating talent wise. when he first arrived however, he was not that way. I think he'll be the same at a&m. that means he's full of piss and vinegar and reenergized right now and that spells an improvement in the aggy's defense. I believe this is his last rodeo and he will again "sit back" and let others recruit for him.
the bottom line is that he represents an improvement over what they had in college station. altho, they have had some decent DC's and they have not worked out. imo, they have not worked out because sumlin just cared about offense and he now realizes he's better care about the D or his career is in trouble.
the bottom line is that he represents an improvement over what they had in college station. altho, they have had some decent DC's and they have not worked out. imo, they have not worked out because sumlin just cared about offense and he now realizes he's better care about the D or his career is in trouble.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:24 am to thunderbird1100
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Second off, Chavis is used his own offense holding onto the ball for a long time
What's the diff in A&M's uptempo O and Lsu's 3 & out O as far as TOP ?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:24 am to The Mick
Not in the slightest
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:28 am to The Mick
Hopefully it will take a couple of years before we will need to fear their D. They need their current players to all buy in, and that is always tougher for veteran players. It should also take a couple of years to build the depth. He will be able to recruit using the success he had in filling the NFL with LSU defenders, and that is some of the cache we lose with him gone. I would not be surprised to see us lose some recruits to A&M going forward, unless they are Louisiana natives.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:29 am to The Mick
According to Chavis himself, LSU will always be LSU on defense and A&M will be A&M.
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