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re: Dedan Thomas to LSU
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:24 am to LINOESC
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:24 am to LINOESC
Quality pick up here. I expected more from Givins - maybe he'll develop but I there's definitely uncertainty there - I think Thomas gives us some certainty of at least competent point guard play I believe.
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:31 am to BomBayTiger
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We all forget LSUs best player by far got hurt beginning of season this year and was out for the year, Jalen Reed.
He most definitely was not the best player, that was Cam Carter. But losing him certainly hurt because the roster was just so weak at the big spot outside of him overall. Way too many deficient bigs in certain areas that didnt have an all around good big like Reed to play with them.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:34 am to LINOESC
They all look good until they play in the SEC…
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:49 am to Mats86
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I try not to pile it on. I’m just giving an avenue for optimism.
I get it. I just saw the set-up for the running joke and took it
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:54 am to LINOESC
LSU spent less than $2 mil last year. Having great recruiting is good but they are still freshmen and some take longer to develop. LSU had one of the youngest and least experienced teams in the SEC. Fact. Look up the starting rotation for each team. Not even close. And Reed was their most important player as he provided a post option and a big physical defensive presence they didn’t have. Anyone who doesn’t realize this knows nothing about basketball. And talent definitely can overcome coaching. It’s why Wades teams could overcome their breakdowns on offense. Because he had talent that could take their men one on one.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 8:12 am to lovinLSU
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They all look good until they play in the SEC…
Top SEC schools also wanted him.
He's good.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 8:14 am to LINOESC
Good get.
Still have concerns with MM's ability to manage a roster. He's had locker room issues every year he has been here. In the NIL era you really have to have a coach that can win a locker room over and do it quickly. It's a very short period of time to get a team to "gel".
Justice Hill, Jalen Cook, Vyctorius Miller, and Corey Chest have all had mysterious time away from the team.
Still have concerns with MM's ability to manage a roster. He's had locker room issues every year he has been here. In the NIL era you really have to have a coach that can win a locker room over and do it quickly. It's a very short period of time to get a team to "gel".
Justice Hill, Jalen Cook, Vyctorius Miller, and Corey Chest have all had mysterious time away from the team.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 8:34 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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(Not like this dude was a top 5 transfer)
He's actually #4 on 247...
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:17 am to king47
It really doesn't matter who MM signs. The Whaters will downplay anyone by saying MM sucks. It's all on MM to get SEC caliber talent and show he can win. If he doesn't he's gone. If he does he stays. Really not that complicated. But the goobers that think we had the talent and experience to win in the SEC this year don't have a clue. Was it NIL limitations or was it MM inability to identify and obtain that talent? I do know we didn't get anywhere near the NIL money that most of the other SEC schools got. Regardless of who's fault that is I expect we will be able to compete this year.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:18 am to GeauxTime9
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In the NIL era you really have to have a coach that can win a locker room over and do it quickly. It's a very short period of time to get a team to "gel".
You also have to have a guy who can either (1) recruit to fit his style of play or (2) be able to adapt to his roster. McMahon hasn't proven he can do either in his first 3 seasons. Case in point, he said early and often this past season that this LSU was a good three-point shooting team...even though it was evident pretty quickly they weren't. Nonetheless, LSU averaged the 4th most 3 point attempts per game in the SEC...and were dead last in 3 pt %. That, despite being 10th in FGs attempted per game. If you don't take many FGs to begin with you sure as hell don't want your (relatively) limited shots to be many bad shots.
If you want to play a certain style, then make sure you recruit to fit that style. That's what Houston does. Their signing classes haven't always been star-studded. But they sign guys that fit how they want to play (coincidentally several from Louisiana over the years). But if you are going to just recruit the best players you can get, then it's on the HC to figure out the strengths of that roster and play to them. Forcing a bad shooting team to take a bunch of threes is not a recipe for success. Clearly. Particularly when you turn the ball over like it's your job.
Either out of growth, or desperation, I think he has accepted stacking HS recruiting classes and building/developing from within to your approach is not the way it works any more. You have to build the best roster you can for the next season. Get the most you can out of it. Then start all over again for the next season.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:32 am to mcspufftiger7
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The Whaters will downplay anyone by saying MM sucks.
No, you idiots will just say that.
Just about everyone has agreed that Dedan seems to be a much better step in the right direction and could prove to be a big addition. Nwoko seems to be a depth piece at best.
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But the goobers that think we had the talent and experience to win in the SEC this year don't have a clue. Was it NIL limitations or was it MM inability to identify and obtain that talent? I do know we didn't get anywhere near the NIL money that most of the other SEC schools got.
But yall need to stop with this bullshite. He's had 3 years, either couldnt get the guys or couldnt develop them. We have no distinct identity or style of play, and virtually no offensive rhythm. Plenty of other coaches have came into the SEC since he's been here and have had better success with less or even the same circumstances.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:48 am to More beer please
First year came to a s**t show under investigation with sanctions hanging over his head and no players on the team so no he didn't inherit what every other coach did. Showed improvement second year but still dealing with very little NIL money compared to everyone else. 3rd year hoping to make a move but their most important player goes down with ACL and one of their best scoreres pusses out and decides not to play. Yet with that and very little NIL money to compete and one of the youngest and most inexperienced teams in the SEC, they played with most of the upper elite teams in the SEC. So I will judge him next year when he's now on a level playing field as far as NIL. If he sucks again next year then he's gone. No biggie. This isn't football or baseball. But that NIL money is the difference between Jordan Sears at PG and Dedon Thomas at PG.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:57 am to JR Hamilsbach
That "winner" didn't get run out of town. He ran himself out of time. He refused to do things the right way, took short cuts, was too much of a dumb shyt to not realize that if caught it'd mean trouble. So what does he do? Talks about what he did over the phone. How does a seemingly intelligent person not know that phone calls can be tapped, traced, and recorded. How does he not know that checks and funds can be traced.
"Winner" himself said he was arrogant . I'd say arrogant and stupid. Let's see what stupid shyt he does in the future.
"Winner" himself said he was arrogant . I'd say arrogant and stupid. Let's see what stupid shyt he does in the future.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:59 am to mcspufftiger7
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Showed improvement second year but still dealing with very little NIL money compared to everyone else.
Funny how this was never said. That narrative only came about this year once it was apparent that this season was a disaster.
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No biggie
Except that interest in the program is at a low.
What will your Year 4 excuse be?
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:07 am to Circle K Beggar
There is no year 4 excuse. I have said that previously. And maybe it took this year to make the NIL issue public but it is a fact whether you want to believe it or not. I have a very good source that has confirmed that. Now that he has been given comparable resources to the other SEC teams we will see what he can do with it.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:18 am to Tigershine
No Sheila shine, all that MOTHERFLUCKER has to do is start winning at the clip Wade did here or better, and all of the so called Wade brigade (charter member here), will shut up quicker than another dumb thought will pop into your head.
This UNLV kid coming here is outstanding news. But now ole Matt has to add a few others and let's not forget: WIN.
For the BILLIONTH time, I don't care who wins big at LSU, I just want SOMEBODY to do it.
It SURE AS HELL was gonna be Wade, but our spineless administration FLUCKED that up.
So now I'm pulling for LSU to find the next guy that can win here, and there are plenty. I personally don't think McMahon has a prayer to be that guy, but I'm BEGGING HIM to make me eat crow.
This UNLV kid coming here is outstanding news. But now ole Matt has to add a few others and let's not forget: WIN.
For the BILLIONTH time, I don't care who wins big at LSU, I just want SOMEBODY to do it.
It SURE AS HELL was gonna be Wade, but our spineless administration FLUCKED that up.
So now I'm pulling for LSU to find the next guy that can win here, and there are plenty. I personally don't think McMahon has a prayer to be that guy, but I'm BEGGING HIM to make me eat crow.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:25 am to mcspufftiger7
Give me a fricking break with all the excuses.
Mark Kyingtron- before he took over Vandy was 9-23 overall and 4-14 in the SEC. He went 20-13 this year and 8-10 in the SEC. They had the 103rd ranked overall and 16th in the SEC in cumulative recruiting ranking according to On3.
He literally had a worse situation, brought in worse talent ranking wise, and did more.
According to On3 we had the 4th best recruiting class in the SEC last year and the 12th best overall in the transfer class.
Mark Kyingtron- before he took over Vandy was 9-23 overall and 4-14 in the SEC. He went 20-13 this year and 8-10 in the SEC. They had the 103rd ranked overall and 16th in the SEC in cumulative recruiting ranking according to On3.
He literally had a worse situation, brought in worse talent ranking wise, and did more.
According to On3 we had the 4th best recruiting class in the SEC last year and the 12th best overall in the transfer class.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:29 am to king47
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He's actually #4 on 247...
Yeah no shite Sherlock, it’s called sarcasm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:40 am to MS_Tigers07
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Seriously guys, last year’s team was not going to win anything. We could’ve been coached by Pearl, Barnes, Oats, it doesn’t matter
bullshite.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:45 am to BomBayTiger
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He basically was the foundation to the team and would have changed the team 100% if he had played in SEC play.
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