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re: Culotta: Max Johnson clearly number 1 and not even close.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:05 pm to tigerpawl
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:05 pm to tigerpawl
quote:that's absolutely NOT the way it works.
All you Max Johnson apostles need to understand one thing: Myles Brennan did nothing to un-deserve starting. Unless and until he really screws up, Brennan is the #1 QB. Get over it. He has built up too many loyalty points and Coach O knows that. Brennan will be the starter. That’s just the way it works.
The best guy starts, regardless of "loyalty points."
It doesn't matter if a guy has done nothing to "un-deserve" starting -- if the other guy is better, he jumps him.
Competitive sports, especially at this elite level, is brutally merit-based. The guy who gives us the best chance to win gets the job. Pure and simple. No loyalty points required.
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:06 pm to GumboPot
the ability to read defenses is far more important than running ability.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:07 pm to GumboPot
If the Oline isn't better, it won't matter who is back there throwing while looking up at the sky.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:09 pm to thunderbird1100
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They are vying for the exact same role, you cant sit here and treat one different than the other.
If we are talking about last year I can treat them differently
I didn’t expect Max to be as good as Brennan. The fact that people think it’s arguable isn’t exactly good for Myles lol.
From A Fr QB you want to see flashes & that’s what Max did. Myles really shouldn’t have any growing pains at this point. Year 2 it’s even ground, of course.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:10 pm to atltiger6487
The only thing guaranteed is whoever doesn’t start their fanboys will be waiting for the other to mess up and will jump on here to say “my guy wouldn’t have done that”.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:13 pm to texastigerr
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If the Oline isn't better, it won't matter who is back there throwing while looking up at the sky.
I'm sure the Ranters will be here any second to talk Max up like he's Michael Vick and why his legs are so important, all while ignoring that there was little difference in his sack rate compared to Myles and TJ.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:15 pm to GumboPot
frick seniority. Play the best player. That's the type of shite that ends up getting you fired.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:33 pm to SammyTiger
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Could he push the ball downfield to him?
Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Brennan has a stronger arm than Johnson but you all want to take that and build this fantasy that Johnson is this noodle-armed grandma. His arm is fine. If velocity was all that mattered Finley would be the guy. There's a much bigger gap between Finley's arm and Brennan's arm than there is between Brennan's arm and Johnson's arm. Johnson has a much better arm than Tim Tebow. Was Tebow's arm a liability for the Gators? How about Danny Wuerffel's?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:34 pm to Lester Earl
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If we are talking about last year I can treat them differently
It doesnt really matter, because again they are fighting for the same spot. On one hand we argue experience doesnt matter, on the other now it's supposed to matter?
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I didn’t expect Max to be as good as Brennan. The fact that people think it’s arguable isn’t exactly good for Myles lol.
They both had their big bright moments, I dont think we can go wrong with either. Brennan went out last season having the best graded game of any QB last year in a game we had. Then Johnson makes the most of his 2 starts as well later on and makes the case to be the starter as well. Clearly the coaches think it's still quite the battle as well between Brennan and Johnson, in the end, it's a great "problem" to have.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:57 pm to thunderbird1100
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It doesnt really matter, because again they are fighting for the same spot. On one hand we argue experience doesnt matter, on the other now it's supposed to matter?
Of course it matters
for instance, in 2018, freshman Ja'Marr Chase was competing for reps with Sullivan and Dillon. They all had the same amount of catches in 2018.
Everyone knew what was about to happen, but if you look at the stats, it doesnt really tell you that. Which is why this exercise is worthless.
When a Freshman is pacing with a 3rd or 4th year player, you usually can see what is about to happen. One is ascending, the other is stagnant.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:58 pm to Lapaz
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he key is who can put the ball in the playmaker’s hands. With the best chance to succeed.
I'm not sure it's that simple to say.
My observation of the late season games by Johnson is that he not only knew where the ball should go, but that he also had a great awareness of the offensive line calls so that he called out the protection signals well. It sure seemed to me that the offensive line played better with Max back there.
Can't ignore that.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:03 pm to shinerfan
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Was Tebow's arm a liability for the Gators?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Johnson was 240 and replaced a power back in our offense this would be a different conversation.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:14 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:Max rushed -27yds?
talk Max up like he's Michael Vick and why his legs are so important,
Disclaimer: I haven't seen film and just wonder what all this leg fuss is about.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:18 pm to Mayhawman
He’s more mobile than Brennan. He’s not getting running down when he makes the decision to bail out of the pocket.
He can also run on designed plays. He’s a legitimate threat there.
He isn’t burrow how can play bull fighter in the pocket.
Ha also Had a few bad sack where he tried to hard to escape and lost a ton of ground before getting sacked.
He can also run on designed plays. He’s a legitimate threat there.
He isn’t burrow how can play bull fighter in the pocket.
Ha also Had a few bad sack where he tried to hard to escape and lost a ton of ground before getting sacked.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:47 pm to SammyTiger
Gotcha, I just saw he was sacked 3 times, but can't find Brennan's sacked numbers to compare, if their time between #1D and #2D was even similar.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:14 pm to GumboPot
Wrong
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:26 pm to Mayhawman
We can't count sacks in the spring game. If the defender looked at them funny the whistle was blown.
Nuss had a great roll out and converted on a sideline pass for a 3rd down conversion, but the rusher touched him (wasn't going to get the tackle in a real game setting) and they blew the play dead.
Nuss had a great roll out and converted on a sideline pass for a 3rd down conversion, but the rusher touched him (wasn't going to get the tackle in a real game setting) and they blew the play dead.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:00 am to LSBoosie
You all are delusional thinking we can win with Max Johnson or Myles Brennan..
Posted on 4/20/21 at 12:41 am to GumboPot
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You can install the entire playbook with Max under center whereas a lot of the playbook is closed when Myles is under center. The reason is simple. Max can run.
I don't quite agree on this point. Brennan gives us the deep option. Max, not so much. I still think these talking heads are reading entirely too much into off-season workouts and scrimmages. Might Max be in the lead? Sure, I guess. Huge gap? I doubt it. Both of these guys can play, and while it's true that Brennan is a statue, accuracy and quick reads can make up for that. I thought Brennan was improving rapidly in those areas before the injury. Max wasn't particularly accurate, but he showed that he's a gamer who will make the plays when he needs to.
So I'll reserve my judgment on this competition until I actually get to see them both play in a game that matters next year, and see how they've progressed.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:02 am to GumboPot
Now that you have it all figured you need to go tell the coaches. Take Culotta along for backup.
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