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re: Coach O alluded to a defensive change in the offseason
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:08 am to DeafJam73
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:08 am to DeafJam73
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His philosophy is different, but it’s the defense that murdered Texas A&M, UGA, Oklahoma and Clemson consecutively. That wasn’t an accident.
Yeah. The defense at the end of the season was sick. It was attacking all over the field. The last 5 games, really.
Once everyone was healthy and knew what to do, that was a championship defense.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:11 am
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:10 am to ArcticTiger
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I said the same and was bashed but know for a fact from reliable sources that there was friction between O and Aranda because of this. After Ole Miss O got pissed and start having more input to play calling on D.
My purely observational assessment is that O and Aranda had a good relationship, but they disagreed philosophically on defensive scheme and this likely did cause some friction. O had to step in early in the season because tackling was horrendous and he implemented new tackling drills. He also expressed frustration with mental lapses on D and poor gap integrity.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:15 am to BayouCowboy
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I still believe Alleva pushed Canada on O
Insofar as they (Alleva, F. King, the board, maybe TAF, etc.) were vetoing all the controversial choices (Briles, Kiffin, etc.), they may have done this.
However, let's not act like the Canada hire was crazy. On paper, it was excellent - he was probably the only Broyles winner that was realistically available. But, their styles, personalities and philosophies all clashed too much. Canada can be a good coach and not be the right fit. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
It was not a good fit, but it was a "good" hire and Canada is a good coach.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:17 am to BayouCowboy
Makes Bo Pilini sense
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:19 am to BayouCowboy
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O had to step in early in the season because tackling was horrendous and he implemented new tackling drills.
And this isn't necessarily anyone's "fault" - the NCAA has reduced the amount of live practice time and that requires a more refined tuning of what needs to be practiced and when it needs to be practiced.
Exactly why and how a "CEO" type head coaching style can work in the modern environment (although subject-matter gurus tend to predominate) - leadership, in generaly, is there to provide purpose, direction and motivation.
In addition to leadership, command responsibilities include risk tolerance decisions and allocation of finite and specialized resources. This is what the head coach gets paid very well to do.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:20 am to BayouCowboy
It would not be surprising to see us move to more of a 4-3 system since our depth along the line appears to be much stronger than our depth at LB next year. And the 4-3 is Pelini's forte if we get him. We shall see.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:24 am to Ace Midnight
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Insofar as they (Alleva, F. King, the board, maybe TAF, etc.) were vetoing all the controversial choices (Briles, Kiffin, etc.), they may have done this. However, let's not act like the Canada hire was crazy. On paper, it was excellent - he was probably the only Broyles winner that was realistically available. But, their styles, personalities and philosophies all clashed too much. Canada can be a good coach and not be the right fit. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It was not a good fit, but it was a "good" hire and Canada is a good coach.
It's possible. I was excited about Canada's hire. O may have been as well. Canada circumventing O and going straight to Alleva may have been more a personality/ego clash than an actual arrangement between Canada and Alleva, but the optics were really bad.
In the end it worked out for us.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:24 am to BayouCowboy
quote:We tried that early.
Prior to the start of the season Coach O stated that he wanted his DL to be more aggressive and attacking vs eating up blocks. That's counter to Aranda's style which uses the LBs as the playmakers to flow to the ball and shoot gaps provided by the DL.
When we went back to classic Aranda style we saw a vast improvement.
quote:He had no choice, this is a result of Aranda leaving. I have no doubt we keep Aranda if he doesn't leave and let him run the defense his way forever more.
For better or worse O has a vision on what he wants and he's finding the guys he wants to put that vision in place.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:32 am to geauxpurple
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It would not be surprising to see us move to more of a 4-3 system since our depth along the line appears to be much stronger than our depth at LB next year. And the 4-3 is Pelini's forte if we get him. We shall see.
Well if Pelini is the guy, and I'm not sure that's the case yet, I hope we flex between 4-3 and 3-4. You can't stay with a base D and survive in today's CFB.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:37 am to BayouCowboy
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Bottom line
O wants an aggressive attacking D that creates pressure and turnovers and the DL plays downhill. He wanted the RPO spread and went out and got Brady and re-made the offense. For better or worse O has a vision on what he wants and he's finding the guys he wants to put that vision in place.
This is true and a very good point. It's one of my reasons of having faith in the ability of CEO grabbing the right right guy. He's got a plan and looking for the best guy to implement it.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:37 am to coachw
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Aranda leaving is a good thing.
Maybe, but maybe not.
As much as you hate the man, it is hard for you to grasp that he got the job done and we won the national championship.
Be careful what your wish for.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:37 am to BayouCowboy
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More than one of our current DL have tweeted excitement with a possible switch to a 4-3.
Mike Detillier (who is close to Coach O) said yesterday on WWL radio that Coach O prefers a 4-3 defense with some 3-4 concepts mixed in and don't be surprised if you see the LSU defense evolve to more of a 4-3 look next year. He said this while in conversation with Marlon Favorite who was also in favor of the LSU moving in the direction of a 4-3 defense. Then they got excited about the thought of Shelvin, Ika and Guillory blowing up the A gap in that scheme.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:41 am to tigerfoot
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We tried that early. When we went back to classic Aranda style we saw a vast improvement.
That's not what we did vs Texas. The philosophy was for the DL to contain Ehlinger and not let him run. That's why he was able to sit back and carve up the D. O said that was the scheme, to keep him in the pocket.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:00 am to TigerMan327
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And to be honest, he's gotten worse every year hes been here...
Eh, the difference between the 31st scoring D and the 26th is .6 ppg, or 9 points over 15 games. The difference between 31st and 14th is 2.6 ppg, less than a field goal per game.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:00 am to BayouCowboy
quote:but it is what we versus bandy and Ole Miss. we went back to classic Aranda type stuff after the Ole Miss dust up
That's not what we did vs Texas. The philosophy was for the DL to contain Ehlinger and not let him run. That's why he was able to sit back and carve up the D. O said that was the scheme, to keep him in the pocket.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:02 am to BayouCowboy
It was time for a change. O encouraged Aranda to take a HC position.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:18 am to tigerfoot
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but it is what we versus bandy and Ole Miss. we went back to classic Aranda type stuff after the Ole Miss dust up
The OM game was being ill prepared to face an option offense. Maybe they thought Corral would start instead of Plumlee so they could pass to keep up with LSU's high flying offense.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:18 am to DeafJam73
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Why? He is a great defensive mind. His philosophy is different, but it’s the defense that murdered Texas A&M, UGA, Oklahoma and Clemson consecutively. That wasn’t an accident.
yet people were bashing him in the beginning of the year.. knew all along he would get it fixed... guy is a damn genius... very sad to see him go but def will be rooting for Baylor in the Big 12 as long as hes there... we were lucky to have him...
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:21 am to Supermoto Tiger
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For better or worse O has a vision on what he wants
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For better or worse
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better
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:29 am to Wayne Campbell
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Eh, the difference between the 31st scoring D and the 26th is .6 ppg, or 9 points over 15 games. The difference between 31st and 14th is 2.6 ppg, less than a field goal per game.
You can try and down play it all you want. We've statistically gotten worse every single year he's been here. It's not the type of trend you want.
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