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re: Clear the Record on Woodward "Saving" Football
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:54 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:54 pm to Hot Carl
quote:The problem is the poster taking about Wade lying and was therefore fired, didn’t address or tie in the “save football” narrative at all.
Why does it have to be one or the other? Can you not comprehend nuance? That there may have been a combination of factors?
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:54 pm to ellessuuuu
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Basketball was not sacrificed for football, it was sacrificed for arrogance. And we just keep doubling down.
Speaking of arrogance, our fans that think they actually knew what was happening in the building and what was being said between the school and the NCAA on either side, are just purely guessing.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:56 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Thank you for this post.
Matt Mascona was spreading disinformation this morning on his podcast promoting the Will Wade had to be the sacrificial lamb for LSU football narrative. Disgusting, and I like Matt.
Bottom line is Woody wanted to fire Wade because Wade was not Woody’s guy. Fat Scott was looking for excuses.
YUP! sick of the dumbass false narratives here by clowns OP put that shite to bed for good
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:58 pm to GumboPot
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The accusation about Wade lying is just as speculative as the accusation of Wade being fired to save football.
You have been getting this story wrong for 5 years.
As well as OP and Gus007.
Ross Dellenger reported it. It’s not even worth trying to explain this to you, if you still aren’t aware after 5 years
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:58 pm to ellessuuuu
His texts were factual. The check from his wife's account was factual. He did it. Guilty.
Move on loser.
Move on loser.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:59 pm to GumboPot
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Todd Golden was available. He was my first choice at the time but LSU probably did have enough money to attract him to this dumpster fire of a program.
I don’t follow college basketball outside of LSU. I think the tourney sucks mostly until the Final Four when stories have developed. Teams are just so completely different now from one year to the next, that it’s just a shitty product. To me. I’m glad a lot of you still like it.
My point is that I have no idea Todd Golden is/was when we hired McMahon. But by the time of your post, I think you meant “LSU probably did NOT have enough money to attract him to the dumpster fire of a program.” Which, if you think he’s better than McMahon (or was at the time), I have no reason to doubt you, and probably agree that we didn’t have the money to pull him. The job was terribly unattractive at the time.
Which makes next year kinda weird. You want McMahon to do well enough to make the job attractive to the next coach, but not good enough to be retained. If you hate McMahon, that’s a bad position to be in as a fan. I get it. It sucks. And when they do decide to move on from McMahon, how do they allot the money? Buyout + new coach’s salary+ NIL for players.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:00 pm to ellessuuuu
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It changes by the minute. The point of the post was the “saving football” narrative. Notice it quickly turned into he lied.
I've never been a huge basketball fan, I'm more of a baseball/football guy so admittedly, I'm haven't kept up with the Wade stuff as in depth as others have. With that being said, from what I gather.....
*Wade got busted paying players before NIL was legal
*Even if NIL was legal, coaches still can't pay them directly and he did
*LSU was in the crosshairs of the NCAA
*Wade drug his feet on meeting with school officials
*Wade was not forthcoming with school officials when they did meet
*NCAA also used football as leverage against LSU to get Wade
Ultimately, it seems Scott could've fired Wade from jump street but gave him some rope before doing so. I'd imagine he'd rather have a successful basketball program than to not have one so I'm sure he'd like to have kept his head coach that was winning. It just seems like, from the casual observer, Wade kinda hung himself here.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:03 pm to ellessuuuu
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changes by the minute. The point of the post was the “saving football” narrative. Notice it quickly turned into he lied.
They reinstated Wade as coach of LSU in April 2019, after he finally agreed to end his insubordination. He could have been terminated with cause at this point had LSU wanted to fight it.
It’s hilarious that you think at the end of the day there was some conspiracy about why he was fired lmao.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:05 pm to ellessuuuu
All that typing to show you're a moron, congrats.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:06 pm to Lester Earl
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They reinstated Wade as coach of LSU in April 2019, after he finally agreed to end his insubordination. He could have been terminated with cause at this point had LSU wanted to fight it.
It’s hilarious that you think at the end of the day there was some conspiracy about why he was fired lmao.
Woodward just doesn't seem like a guy that would want to fire a successful coach, that is making money for the program, just to install his guy, particularly when the program was in such a spot that he couldn't go get a big name coach and had to hire a mid-major coach. Just doesn't fit his M.O. seemingly.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:09 pm to ellessuuuu
Man yall really need to get off Wade’s dick.
There was never a direct order to fire wade. It was an off the record deal.
Look give us a W, and we bury this.
It’s not that hard to grasp.
There was never a direct order to fire wade. It was an off the record deal.
Look give us a W, and we bury this.
It’s not that hard to grasp.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:13 pm to barry
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Speaking of arrogance, our fans that think they actually knew what was happening in the building and what was being said between the school and the NCAA on either side, are just purely guessing.
So are the ones assuming anything would ever come of the investigation if Woodward told the NCAA to kick rocks.
What we do have is countless examples of other schools completely ignoring the NCAA and daring them to do something about it.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:17 pm to ellessuuuu
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I’ve yet to see one of them actually rebut the factual information provided
While your post included factual information, your conclusions are mere speculation. The IARP had not been around long enough to have any clear idea of how they would rule. Football and basketball were rolled into a consolidated investigation for the purpose of putting pressure on the school. Woodward could have rolled the dice and very well may have won the gamble, but you cannot sit here and definitively say there was no risk to the football program. You have no idea how the IARP would have ruled had Wade not been fired.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:43 pm to Hot Carl
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If you hate McMahon, that’s a bad position to be in as a fan.
I don't hate McMahon. (I don't love him either). IMO the circumstances surrounding the LSU basketball program have really delt him an almost impossible hand.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:47 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Look give us a W, and we bury this.
You think it's bad now, wait a couple of years from now when WW has the Wolfpack in the Final Four and LSU's basketball program is still in the cellar.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:06 pm to ellessuuuu
TL;DR
Wade was fired for lying to his boss about his level of cooperation with an ongoing investigation...twice.
Wade was fired for lying to his boss about his level of cooperation with an ongoing investigation...twice.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:07 pm to HotBoudin
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His texts were factual. The check from his wife's account was factual. He did it. Guilty.
Move on loser.
The checking account was not factual. Do yourself a favor and actually read the findings.
The allegation is that he paid someone “believed to be associated with a student athlete.” Guess what, that someone didn’t cooperate with the investigation and the NCAA had no way to make this person cooperate. So no, the accusation did not make it past the allegation stage.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:09 pm to TigerBait2008
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All that typing to show you're a moron, congrats.
Thanks for contributing to an intelligent conversation. This seems to be above your comprehension.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:26 pm to PP7 for heisman
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He fricked up at VCU and at LSU
What did he do at VCU?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:01 pm to JiminyCricket
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Ultimately, it seems Scott could've fired Wade from jump street but gave him some rope before doing so
Incorrect. He could fire him with cause until the NOA came out. As soon as he could, he fired him.
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