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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"

Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:57 am to
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His own words just talk about a strong offer not impermissible benefits

They would need something to support a violation


When the letter arrives, will you change your mind?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93720 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:59 am to
When the letter arrives, most think that there will be more to constitute the letter other than just him saying the word offer.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:02 am to
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When the letter arrives, most think that there will be more to constitute the letter other than just him saying the word offer.


Possibly.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:04 am to
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When the letter arrives, most think that there will be more to constitute the letter other than just him saying the word offer.




I mean there would have to be right? The situation was already discussed with Wade and The Smart family and Smart was cleared to play, and Wade cleared to coach.....

Gotta be something new
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:04 am to
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We certainly heard WW discuss his strong offer.

We all heard those words on tape. Those words can mean anything from being an immediate starter to tutoring for classes. No evidence of payments or illegal benefits have surfaced, in spite of people looking for those sorts of things.

The fact that you know this, and yet keep on with your specious arguments prove to me that you are indeed a special kind of stupid.

This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93720 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:07 am to
That was just a preliminary investigation and they even said that the investigation would continue. Also, that was before the wiretap became public on HBO. Still, you would think that they need to have some kind of proof of payment whether it be direct evidence or circumstantial to really punish LSU harshly. Wade could probably get punished just for what he said on HBO if the NCAA wants to go that route.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278528 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 am to
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mean there would have to be right? The situation was already discussed with Wade and The Smart family and Smart was cleared to play, and Wade cleared to coach.....

Gotta be something new



12 months of investigations for other teams

And you think the NCAA cleared smart in 3 days? Lmao
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:18 am to
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Those words can mean anything from being an immediate starter to tutoring for classes.

You are correct. So when the NCAA letter arrives, it should simply be discarded in the trash. Case closed!
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No evidence of payments or illegal benefits have surfaced, in spite of people looking for those sorts of things.

Dear Mark Emmert, Case Closed! WW was offering a math tutor. You are a moron. There is a building across the street from the indian mounds call the Academic Center for Athletes that contains.......wait for it.......TUTORS.
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The fact that you know this, and yet keep on with your specious arguments prove to me that you are indeed a special kind of stupid.

The fact that you don't know anything about tutors for athletes and the Academic Center for Athletes proves that you are in need of a CT-scan.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:28 am to
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You should remove the word "law" from your name. The point I made was there is no requirement for acceptance of the offer for it to be considered a violation.

And you should learn to exercise some reading comprehension.

Nothing in what I said or that the rule says talks about "acceptance of the offer." Rather, the rule states that it has to be an offer of financial aid or some benefit. What I'm stating is that based on what we know, Wade merely said the word offer, but did nothing to identify what it is an offer of.

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However, based on the context of the conversation (and basic common sense), WW was referring to a monetary offer.

I never said that he wasn't likely referring to that. In fact, I specifically stated that it is easy to assume or infer that is what he is talking about. But an inference is just that; it does not conclude that he was talking about an offer of financial aid or a benefit.

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And the NCAA (like most intelligent people) will infer WW was offering money.

They can infer all they want. What I'm saying, like many, is that if they base their NOA and subsequent penalties based solely on that statement alone and an inference, then it is complete and total bullshite!
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:50 am to
You should "really" remove the word "law" from your name.
Because (as you should know), inference is one type of circumstantial evidence. Therefore, your (and others, including the NCAA) will naturally "infer" that WW was talking about $$$. So, thanks to your reasoning.....WW violated NCAA rules. Thanks.
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if they base their NOA and subsequent penalties based solely on that statement alone and an inference, then it is complete and total bullshite!

Thanks for clearing up your position. However, the NCAA could care less about your conclusions on their position as being "complete bullshite."
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:07 pm to
Will Wade is a role model!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66677 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:43 pm to
My opinion is that if they sanction us for the phone call without additional evidence of an actual infraction it would be BS.

So no.

Unless the letter has additional evidence.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:11 pm to
The tape does not prove Wade made an offer!!
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:01 pm to
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The tape does not prove Wade made an offer!!


Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3293 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
The most pathetic thing about you, and believe me there is a helluva long list, is that you are so invested in your arguement from some utopia that you think can exist on planet earth (haha), that you are rooting with every fiber in your insignificant being that LSU and Wade get nailed to the cross over this, while claiming to be an LSU fan.

It ain't gonna happen for a variety of reasons, further proving you are clueless in the ways of the world. Because you are special, let me define "ain't gonna happen." We might as an NCAA face saving measure, get docked a few scholarships, but we won't be banned from post season, from what (and this is important debbie downer) is publicly known about the "case".

1) HEARSAY evidence. Unless the NCAA produces further evidence, we're good. With dorky v, and the leaky society we live in, and the hundreds of hours of Dawkin's taped conversations, that would have undoubtedly surfaced by now. Wade sounds like Louis CK spitting out jokes rapidly to a GIGGLING Dawkins on the taped recording we've heard.

2) Wade's lawyer has kept Sean Miller out of the deep fryer.

3) We don't have alleva's dumb arse running the show. I imagine you would be a pussy just like ole joe if you were ad, roll over and take it.

4) The NCAA doesn't want to fLuck with a football power broker like LSU. The NCAA is not that far away from being left in the dust by the top football schools, leaving them with a bunch of mid-majors that MIGHT NOT cheat. Hey, something right up Irish's naive alley!!!

5) OUR AD IS MARRIED TO THE HEAD OF THE NCAA'S DAUGHTER. This might sound silly, but do you think that could work in LSU's favor, or is that not how things go down in candy land????

Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
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My opinion is that if they sanction us for the phone call without additional evidence of an actual infraction it would be BS.


Oh.....I'll let the NCAA know your opinion.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93720 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:11 pm to
shite. I totally misread. That's what I get for posting when I'm distracted.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66453 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:14 pm to
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12 months of investigations for other teams

And you think the NCAA cleared smart in 3 days? Lmao


Agreed. Smart being cleared to play and the investigation ending are two different things.

The NCAA cleared Smart in a hurry due to circumstances at the time. However, anyone who thinks that's the end of it would be fooling themselves.

That said, i think the recruitment of Naz Reid will be more closely scrutinized than Smart.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:32 pm to
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The most pathetic thing about you...is that you are so invested in your arguement from some utopia that you think can exist on planet earth

Try using spell check (argument). I have never said anything about a "utopia" related to college sports. There will always be cheaters in college sports....and in life. You, my friend, are an apologist. The worst kind....you make excuses for unethical behavior in those who are in a position to influence our youth. Yes, I am an LSU fan, much more of a fan than you. Because I want our athletic teams to be free from cheating (and those who think cheating is the only way to win). If that means WW must go, OK. I have always said WW is a very good coach and recruiter. However, if his character is flawed to the point where he cannot differentiate between right and wrong, then it is time to move forward without him.
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Unless the NCAA produces further evidence, we're good.

And you know this because.......
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Wade sounds like Louis CK spitting out jokes rapidly to a GIGGLING Dawkins on the taped recording we've heard.

Your interpretation. The only interpretation of the WW FBI wiretapped call that matters is the NCAA.
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We don't have alleva's dumb arse running the show. I imagine you would be a pussy just like ole joe if you were ad, roll over and take it.

When the letter arrives, it's over. The NCAA will "pretend" they care about LSU's "response" but the reality is (at that point), you are guilty as charged. So, it does not matter who the AD is at that point. The only issue that would have made a difference (related to the AD) is doing a better job managing adherence to the NCAA rule book.
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The NCAA doesn't want to fLuck with a football power broker like LSU.

I bet you dream in color too.
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OUR AD IS MARRIED TO THE HEAD OF THE NCAA'S DAUGHTER.

Crap.......I forgot to send a gift. Why didn't you remind me?
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This might sound silly

Might?


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93720 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:39 pm to
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I bet you dream in color too.

Doesn't everyone?
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