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re: Can we pull a few threads from when Daniels decided to return for his last year
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:10 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:10 am to Mickey Goldmill
A lot of those statements show just how ignorant a lot of people are on this site. It's the word "NEVER" that they love to use which is stupid. It's one thing to criticize JD's play which a lot did including me BUT to say he would NEVER change. Would NEVER learn. Would NEVER.......Kelly will NEVER win a championship here. Jay Johnson will NEVER win a NC here. Matt Mcmahon will NEVER have a winning program here. I could go on and on. Then when they are proven wrong they lie about what they said. I had friends I used to argue with about JD and my point was he did it at Arizona St and he had done it in 3 big games that year so yeah he could change. Doesn't make me a genius but there were signs he could do it as far as i was concerned and he was the best QB at the time for THAT team. Period.
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:16 am to Adam Banks
quote:I made the first page. Woohoo!
Very happy with my performance in that thread
Dudes melting about a player returning is the absolute gold standard for tRant. Too good.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:46 am to drizztiger
Here’s a winner of a comment
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that man sucks.. i saw it in person.. he is awful.. i watched joe in person in 2018 and i saw it coming.. i don’t see it with him at all.. now walker he is coming
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kingofthelv Member since Oct 2018 1084 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:58 am to Adam Banks
You see some of the same posters who are currently saying that Nuss sucks & that he can't improve after a really solid 2024 season.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:46 am to mdomingue
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That was September 4th of 2023.
Yeah, well, he wasn't good against FSU.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:52 am to FLObserver
I confess. I was not real vocal about it but I was not a believer in JD until about 3-4 games in. I did not believe he could get over his hesitation to throw the ball.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:59 am to FLObserver
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I'm sure that would be pure entertainment considering he is now a star in the NFL.
what's your point? he was pretty underwhelming his first year here, he exploded out of nowhere his last year here, it's like he was a completely different player and seems to be continuing to improve, I'm certain I made some negative comments about his play his first year here, and they were warranted, he had a shitton of college starts and playing time before he got here and seemed to have plateaued, good on the young man
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:27 pm to Sun God
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:31 pm to 777Tiger
quote:Except that what you're saying is bullshite.
what's your point? he was pretty underwhelming his first year here, he exploded out of nowhere his last year here, it's like he was a completely different player and seems to be continuing to improve, I'm certain I made some negative comments about his play his first year here, and they were warranted, he had a shitton of college starts and playing time before he got here and seemed to have plateaued, good on the young man
People say Daniels was inaccurate in 2022. Except that he had a 68.6% completion percentage. That's over 10% higher than Burrow (57.8%) in 2018 and over 6% higher than his completion percentage at ASU (62.4%). Daniels had the SECOND highest completion percentage of any QB in the SEC in 2022. Daniels had a better completion percentage and passer rating in 2022 than Nuss had in 2024.
People say that Daniels was hesitant to throw in 2022. Except that he attempted and completed more passes in 2022 than any other year in his college career, including his Heisman year. Indeed, Daniels had the THIRD most completions of any QB in the SEC in 2022.
And NONE of that makes any mention of his ability to run with the ball. In 2022, Daniels rushed for 885 yards (9th in SEC including RBs) and 11 TDs (3rd in SEC including RBs).
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:42 pm to offshoretrash
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I hope this staff doesn’t throw away the future by prioritizing JD5 and Nuss over Howard.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:43 pm to Tiger1988
Fat Bastard was dying for some to argue with him too lmao
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:47 pm to KWL85
quote:That's just it. Fans are just fans - seldom in doubt, but only occasionally correct.
I think hard-core football fans could see Jayden's faults in 22
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:49 pm to Salviati
quote:Officer, there's been a mass murder. Please respond to the scene. A fact explosion killed EVERYBODY.
Except that what you're saying is bullshite.
People say Daniels was inaccurate in 2022. Except that he had a 68.6% completion percentage. That's over 10% higher than Burrow (57.8%) in 2018 and over 6% higher than his completion percentage at ASU (62.4%). Daniels had the SECOND highest completion percentage of any QB in the SEC in 2022. Daniels had a better completion percentage and passer rating in 2022 than Nuss had in 2024.
People say that Daniels was hesitant to throw in 2022. Except that he attempted and completed more passes in 2022 than any other year in his college career, including his Heisman year. Indeed, Daniels had the THIRD most completions of any QB in the SEC in 2022.
And NONE of that makes any mention of his ability to run with the ball. In 2022, Daniels rushed for 885 yards (9th in SEC including RBs) and 11 TDs (3rd in SEC including RBs).
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:51 pm to Salviati
quote:Eh, I believe the criticism was that he was hesitant to push the ball downfield, which absolutely was warranted. Attempts per game were almost identical, but his YPA was 7.5 in 2022 vs 11.6 in 2023. That's huge difference.
People say that Daniels was hesitant to throw in 2022. Except that he attempted and completed more passes in 2022 than any other year in his college career, including his Heisman year. Indeed, Daniels had the THIRD most completions of any QB in the SEC in 2022.
My biggest concern was if he was going to be able to have the confidence to launch the ball. I thought time was against him since unlike Burrow we had several years of starting time for Daniels to look at. I was a skeptic because of that, and he made me eat my words.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:53 pm to FLObserver
I'm glad all my negative comments about JD5 came during the Score Board threads that Chicken has already deleted.
Seriously, IIRC my biggest criticism was holding on to the ball too long especially his first season with LSU.
After the Grambling game in JD5's second game of the second season a light bulb went off and his Heisman run ensued.
Seriously, IIRC my biggest criticism was holding on to the ball too long especially his first season with LSU.
After the Grambling game in JD5's second game of the second season a light bulb went off and his Heisman run ensued.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:00 pm to Tiger1988
Damn 
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:09 pm to offshoretrash
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I wasn't wrong in what I said
Of course not.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:17 pm to FLObserver
I remember starting a thread after missouri that he should be beloved from here on out...
That game seemed to remove all haters from then on...
That game seemed to remove all haters from then on...
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:32 pm to Cuz413
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Many fans knew how good Nabers and BTJ were and couldn't help but to be frustrated Daniels would rarely give them at least a 50-50 ball a couple of times a game.
Yeah but most of us understood why he didn’t. It was all those morons spouting “he can’t do it that’s why he won’t” that really look stupid. You know who you are. Don’t even have to call all those morons.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:36 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Sorry, but that's a logical fallacy.
Eh, I believe the criticism was that he was hesitant to push the ball downfield, which absolutely was warranted. Attempts per game were almost identical, but his YPA was 7.5 in 2022 vs 11.6 in 2023. That's huge difference.
My biggest concern was if he was going to be able to have the confidence to launch the ball. I thought time was against him since unlike Burrow we had several years of starting time for Daniels to look at. I was a skeptic because of that, and he made me eat my words.
You're attempting to diminish Daniels' 2022 season by comparing it to his record setting Heisman season. Everybody agrees that Daniels improved from 2022 to 2023. The question is how good was his 2022 season.
The answer is that his 2022 season was good if not very, very good.
Sure, Daniels had a YPA of 7.5 in 2022, but that was above average for 2022, and remarkably similar to Burrow (7.6) in 2018 and Nuss (7.7) in 2024, while Daniels had a higher completion percentage and passer rating.
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