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Can someone define "professional"?

Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:30 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16398 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:30 pm
Do you have to get paid to play a sport?
Do you have to sign a contract/sponsorship to get paid?
Do you have to have an agent?

If so, I'm having trouble finding what's the actual difference between NFL, CFB and HS Bluechips.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
11005 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:32 pm to
College athletes are pros if they get paid, which is most of them at this point. Which makes the whole thing indefensible in court until massive structural changes happen.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6230 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:32 pm to
Therein lies the problem. The lines have been blurred far too much.

I have no problem with college athletes getting extra money for their likeness being used by schools. But where NIL is and everything are bridges too far.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
20112 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:33 pm to
Apparently signing a contract to participate in an NFL Training Camp is VERY different than signing a contract to play in college…
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9301 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:33 pm to
Also apparently appearing in an NFL minicamp is totally fine no issues at all but appearing in a preseason game is an absolutely travesty and the final straw ending college sports
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38796 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:36 pm to
Apparently it’s ok to roster players who got paid to play in summer league games and we have posters even trying to positively make that distinction
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
5073 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:37 pm to
It’s all semantics and technicalities.

By their logic, Daequan Wright is more of a professional than Jordan Seaton.

One wasn’t drafted or rostered by an NFL team. The other would have been a 1st round pick and on an NFL roster right now if not for an arbitrary rule that you can’t enter the NFL until your 3rd year out of HS.

It’s the epitome of getting upset about something because you decided you wanted to be upset by it.
Posted by Whodat1
Madisonville, LA
Member since Feb 2007
532 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:39 pm to
once you get paid your a professional and NIL forced the issue so college kids are professionals.
I don't care if a kid can go to the pros out of high school, you still have 5 to play 5 if you want to come back
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43113 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 2:03 pm to
A professional- Someone who tried out for an NFL and wants to play for LSU.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
McKinney, TX
Member since Mar 2014
14229 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 2:04 pm to
Everything is grey. There is nothing simple about any of this. And that is the issue.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8331 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

quote:

A professional athlete is a person who competes in sports for financial compensation, such as a salary, wages, or prize money, rather than as a hobby.

quote:

Core Characteristics

Compensation: Earns money through performance, team contracts, sponsorships, or prizes.

Training: Dedicates major time to physical conditioning, skill practice, and strategy.

Competition: Participates in organized, official athletic events.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7984 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Can someone define "professional"?
Easy peezy.

The definition of "professional" is the group of people against whom the media and conference can take a stand because it attacks a tiny target supported by a mindless label.

College players who got paid to play a different sport are NOT professionals. [The media and conferences cannot be adversarial to athletes who get paid in other sports. They could never get the public angry about that issue.]

College players who get paid to play football are NOT professionals. [You cannot make an enemy of every college team. Nobody would take that kind of adversary seriously.]

College football is NOT a professional sport even though the players get paid millions of dollars to play. [Again, you cannot attack every college team. Nobody would take that kind of adversary seriously. Plus, the more money in the sport means the media and conferences make more money. "We have to protect our phony baloney high-paying jobs."]

College players who get paid to play college football for five years are NOT professionals. [Too many athletes and schools. Besides, the NCAA made this rule.]

College football players who opted to tryout for an NFL team because the NCAA did not announce they had another year of eligibility before the players made the choice to tryout. Even though they got cut, those athletes are PROFESSIONALS. [This is a tiny target to attack. It's just a few schools, and the main violator already wears the blackest hat. Besides, this argument is supported by a mindlessly simple label that the media and conferences don't have to explain:

"PRO teams have PRO players, and college teams have . . . well, they have . . . well, it's not "pay for play." Only PRO teams have PRO players, so let's keep PROS in the PROS because college teams don't have . . . well, let's keep college pure for amateur athletes like the way it was when we were young."
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16398 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

A professional athlete is a person who competes in sports for financial compensation, such as a salary, wages, or prize money, rather than as a hobby.

quote:

Core Characteristics

Compensation: Earns money through performance, team contracts, sponsorships, or prizes.

Training: Dedicates major time to physical conditioning, skill practice, and strategy.

Competition: Participates in organized, official athletic events.


So, just as I figured, there's no difference between all three levels of NFL, CFB, or HS bluechips. None of those are "hobbies" by amateurs.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
7522 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:49 pm to
You sign a professional league contract.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72603 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:54 pm to
You sign a professional league contract. Yes.

Now define the professional league.
Posted by Jest a game
Member since Aug 2024
2701 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:56 pm to
Someone who is paid to play, do a service. College players are pros now
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73407 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:57 pm to
I think some people are missing that as soon as NIL became a thing all these teams of lawyers knew exactly what would happen. They knew last season that these issues would be playing out like this now. This is theatrics, the P4 is a pro league and this back and forth will lead to them being forced to admit that which will move them out from under the NCAA umbrella.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1860 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 3:58 pm to
I agree the lines are extremely blurred in this situration. While I have been against all the other players going back to college after playing on a professional team, I think a one time exception to the 2022 class players who weren't major pro prospects and likely would have returned if they had known they were going to get the extra year. They odds are, many of these players made less than their NIL money and will have very little NIL bargaining power this year.
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3730 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Can someone define "professional"?


Sure, when she is done she removes the condom washes her hands then puts on her clothes and leaves....

Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1543 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:36 pm to
We should settle it on the field and have the Best College team play the worst NFL team and see what happens
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