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re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.

Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:13 pm to
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Here in Shreveport, officer Thomas LaValley responded to a disturbance call and never made it home. I also have a SPD family member that went on a disturbance call. The man refused to comply and turned his back on the officer and his partner. They "aggressively", took him to the ground and after finally getting his arms subdued rolled him over and he had a gun in his belt.

Perhaps the guy wouldn't have used the gun but was it worth risking the officer's life? Maybe if Lavalley had been more aggressive he would still be alive. I'd rather be a jerk and make it home than be nice and in a box.
Because the media doesn't constantly throw these events in your face 24/7, people don't think they happen.

A regular person has no idea what a cop deals with and how quickly a situation can change. Pulling the gun when immediate compliance doesn't take place is a deescalation tactic because the faster someone complies, the quicker the interaction ends. I know it can't feel good if you feel you didn't do anything wrong but it's the safest thing a cop can do sometimes. When someone starts to argue, continuing to argue as they don't do what you tell them invites people to not do as you say. In that moment the most important thing for the cop is to get the person perceived as a possible threat to follow commands. No arguing or excuses.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290903 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:13 pm to
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I had a buddy arrest someone he knew from high school for a DWI


Frisking someone that committed a crime or you suspect committed a crime is completely justifiable

That frisk was excessive for the situation & why they were called out. Bottom line.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11173 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:14 pm to
Take my crews pic down or you’ll be hearing from my attorney
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
8168 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Just like Koy FELT he was violated. But you don’t give a shite because you’re bootlickers


And that makes you what? A criminal nutsack licker? I bet you were all about Alton Sterling too huh, that fine upstanding citizen?

Jesus Christ, look at some crime stats and demographics some time and tell me those cops in BR shouldn’t be on edge 24/7
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:15 pm to
It seems completely logical to frisk two people hiding behind cars at a place in which cops were called to

Hence why the cops didn’t frisk all the other black people in the video not hiding behind cars
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31025 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Because the two kids were unarmed.
And how was the officer supposed to know that when they walked out from behind the vehicle and didn’t comply?
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:17 pm to
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That frisk was excessive for the situation & why they were called out. Bottom line.

Why didn't they frisk anyone else? Why do you think they singled out the two guys that were seen hiding behind vehicles?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Or are you going to ignore that because it doesn't fit your horseshite narrative.


Commies believe anything they are told.

Critical race theory was the lovechild of communists at the Frankfurt school.

Since their beliefs couldn't be proven by science, they came up with a new word (anti positivism) which basically means "Science be damned." They created their own "Social studies" that supported their belief, and it's horse shite.

Critical race theory is anti science, and a fairy tale.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79453 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Jesus Christ, look at some crime stats and demographics some time and tell me those cops in BR shouldn’t be on edge 24/7


Thats not excuse to take that shite out on the general public.

There is a problem with cops both aggressively interjecting themselves into situations and treating the general public as a danger.

It’s not good for cops of citizens.

This was a fricking noise complaint.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57075 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:18 pm to
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So are we gonna get an apology from everyone who called Koy a lying POS?


I think the real elephant in the room and issue is:

Koy Moore and his friend(Bama WR) had to resort to hiding behind a truck in a parking garage at 2am to have some alone time and be intimate.

This entire incident happened b/c of homophobia.
If they didn't have to be in the closet about their feelings for each other, they could have been cuddled up in an apartment without worrying what roommates would think or say.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:18 pm to
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That frisk was excessive for the situation
You're being ignorant here. Koy and his friend looked to be hiding (because they were). The cops don't know the reason for them hiding and that's not initially important. The first step is to secure the area (search under the cars) and search the two guys to secure them. That's priority one when you're called to an area and people are acting suspicious.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Frisking someone that committed a crime or you suspect committed a crime is completely justifiable



and...if they have a reasonable suspicion that you might have a weapon.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11173 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:19 pm to
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This entire incident happened b/c of homophobia.
If they didn't have to be in the closet about their feelings for each other, they could have been cuddled up in an apartment without worrying what roommates would think or say.


Always appreciate your expertise on such subjects
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79453 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:19 pm to
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and...if they have a reasonable suspicion that you might have a weapon.


The problem is that reasonable suspicion has been dropped to nothing.

All of this was over nothing.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31025 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:20 pm to
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This was a fricking noise complaint.
You keep saying this like these situations never escalate.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179052 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:20 pm to
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All of this was over nothing.


then why did Koy behave suspiciously?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:21 pm to
Non compliance is neither necessary nor sufficient to create a threat.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to
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This was a fricking noise complaint.


You keep posting this nonsense.

They did not stop them because of the noise complaint. The stopped them because they were hiding behind a car suspiciously and then they did not follow the directions of the officer.

Just because they were responding to one complaint doesn't mean they should ignore obvious suspicious behavior that is right in front of them.

C'mon man.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290903 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to
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seems completely logical to frisk two people hiding behind cars at a place in which cops were called to


Nah, they were immediately treated like they were criminals & guilty of something.

shite could have ended with a quick conversation, what are y’all doing here; go home,

They were completely unaggressive & cop escalated things.

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