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re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:29 pm to ell_13
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:29 pm to ell_13
quote:
They were called there and they some some guys trying to hide.
Called there for a 200 person party. And you can hide from cops. It’s legal.
quote:
Yes. If all cops ignored all shady behavior, nothing would ever go wrong. Let's just get rid of police departments, too while we're at it. No police departments means no one can get frisked when they don't think they should.
You’re conflating hypotheticals with facts.
You can’t sit here and tell me the cops we’re defending the public here. They pulled guns on two members of the public who weren’t committing a crime.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:31 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
We all Know what “reasonable suspicion” means
Tell me what you think it means Lester..
That phrase came directly from the ACLU's guide to responding to Police. You know, the organization that pretty much hates cops.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:31 pm to Lester Earl
quote:It gives them reasonable suspicion that they're hiding either an object or something they're doing. A weapon can be included in that, yes.
Hiding behind a car gives a cop reasonable suspicion someone has a weapon?
quote:They were called to search the area. They were going slow af up the ramps. He was obviously looking for anything suspicious which could be related to the noise he was called there for. Cops don't just ignore their surroundings because you think they should.
why were they called there? A frickin noise complaint? Jesus
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:32 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
and a quick frisk seemed to deescalate the situation. Yet here you are constantly bitching.
Right
Why don’t we all just let cops point guns at us and frisk us?
Clearly that’s the way.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:33 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
You’re conflating hypotheticals with facts.
So we are at the point where we can minority report and predict future crimes? I hate to break it to you but Cops can't see into the future and know who commits the crimes. It takes a little bit of investigation and sometimes you have to detain a person(s) to ascertain facts. Sometimes those person(s) might be minorities and might even be teenagers.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:33 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Sure it is. Just like it's legal and expected for the cops to investigate when they find those people hiding.
And you can hide from cops. It’s legal.
quote:What's this goalpost move for? Cops do a lot of things that don't necessarily defend the public depending on opinion.
You can’t sit here and tell me the cops we’re defending the public here.
quote:They didn't know that at the time. Cops don't have to witness a crime to pull guns. That's not the threshold. I'm sorry that's difficult for you to understand.
They pulled guns on two members of the public who weren’t committing a crime.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:33 pm to ell_13
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He would have been just as forceful without using the curse word and you'd still be complaining about escalation and racism.
Nope. Good cops communicate well & understand how to read a situation.
Just because you can justifiably do something by the letter of the law, doesn’t mean it is always appropriate. That’s why there are good policemen & shite heads like this one.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:34 pm to lsufan1971
If you want my opinion, no I don’t Think cops should stop people unless they have suspicion of an actual crime.
In this case they were just suspicious.
In this case they were just suspicious.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:35 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
They pulled guns on two members of the public who weren’t committing a crime.
so cops have to be in the middle of a crime to pull their weapons??
the frick is wrong with you? how about put your hands on the car and move along??
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:35 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Why did the officers choose to ignore everyone except for the two people who were actively hiding from them?
Nah, they were immediately treated like they were criminals & guilty of something.
shite could have ended with a quick conversation, what are y’all doing here; go home,
They were completely unaggressive & cop escalated things.
Why didn't they stop every black person they saw in the garage?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:35 pm to bnb9433
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so cops have to be in the middle of a crime to pull their weapons?? the frick is wrong with you?
They weren’t at the beginning middle or end of a crime.
And the cops had no knowledge of a crime. They were on a call for something completely different clearly this wasn’t a 200 person party.
And no I dont Think cops should stop everyone they see acting generally suspicious.
shite if the cops were there because someone reported ripped stealing cars I would make an argument against what they did.
But we should have rights as citizens and they shouldn’t take a back seat every time a cop thinks we’re suspicious of “something”
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:36 pm to Lester Earl
quote:This has zero to do with what you quoted.
Nope. Good cops communicate well & understand how to read a situation.
quote:It was appropriate for him to be suspicious of two people hiding. It was appropriate to be forceful when there wasn't immediate compliance. It was appropriate to have a quick discussion with the two about how he fears for his life too because of what he doesn't know until he searches. He shouldn't have cursed. Doesn't make him a shite cop.
Just because you can justifiably do something by the letter of the law, doesn’t mean it is always appropriate.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:36 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Always appreciate your expertise on such subjects
No problem. At the end of the day,
An LSU wide receiver and his friend, Alabama wide receiver Traeshon Holden, emerge from behind a truck in a parking garage at 2am. Neither is in possession of drugs or guns.
It don't take a model rocketry scientist to figure this one out. Look at them.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:37 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Did reasonable suspicion exist for them to stop everyone they saw in the garage?
We all Know what “reasonable suspicion” means
What about the two people who appeared to be actively hiding from police?
What would be the difference between these two groups of people as related to their actions that night?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:37 pm to mikelbr
EDIT: Withdrawn. I didn't see the previous post and its context.
My apologies.
My apologies.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:37 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:They'll all ignore you just like they ignored everyone else who brings this up.
Did reasonable suspicion exist for them to stop everyone they saw in the garage?
What about the two people who appeared to be actively hiding from police?
What would be the difference between these two groups of people as related to their actions that night?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Please define suspicion in this context.
suspicion of an actual crime.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:38 pm to The Pirate King
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This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:38 pm to SammyTiger
quote:So officers are only allowed to draw their weapons in the event of a crime?
They weren’t at the beginning middle or end of a crime.
And the cops had no knowledge of a crime.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:39 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:People are so dumb.
So officers are only allowed to draw their weapons in the event of a crime?
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