- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to nitwit
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to nitwit
quote:It's sufficient to create a possible threat. So you investigate and give commands that you expect to be complied with. You don't have a leg to stand on here. Acting suspicious and not immediately complying results in a 20 second search and a gun pulled. Then nothing comes of it and people go home and move on with their lives. But instead you have a person who wants to be a victim and lied to the public. Now here we are.
Non compliance is neither necessary nor sufficient to create a threat.
0
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Frisking someone that committed a crime or you suspect committed a crime is completely justifiable
It is called an initial investigation for a reason. The officers were investigation the situation to determine if some crime and been committed. The pat down is done for the safety of the officer and the subject.
quote:
That frisk was excessive for the situation & why they were called out. Bottom line.
These are done thousands of times a day in the United States.
If you ever go through an airport security screening more than likely you will get a similar pat down if something irregular pops up on their scanners.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to MOT
quote:
You keep saying this like these situations never escalate.
I keep Saying this because the noise complaint was for a completely unrelated situation.
This wasn’t the situation.
Any hypothetical risk to the cop came from them investigating something unrelated to the call.
That’s why I keep Saying it.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:23 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
All of this was over nothing.
So it’s the officers’ fault for investigating suspicious behavior? Not the 2 guys that were acting shady?
This should be a prime example of how to act (all the other people acting normal that the cops pass) and how not to act (koy and his friend hiding). But Rex, Lester, and the rest of you idiots will still try to find fault in the officers who did everything right and everyone went about their business 5 minutes afterwards.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
they were immediately treated like they were criminals & guilty of something.
bc the immediate interaction was finding them hiding from cops?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Acting like you are guilty of something will do that.
Nah, they were immediately treated like they were criminals & guilty of something.
quote:Cops did what they did because that's how you keep it from escalating. They're trained to do these things. Even MP said so. The reprimand was for the language and language only.
They were completely unaggressive & cop escalated things.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:24 pm to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
and...if they have a reasonable suspicion that you might have a weapon.
We all Know what “reasonable suspicion” means
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:25 pm to GumboPot
Cops/Koy and friend
Fear= 50/50 It's easy to see why either would be scared
Truth= 100/0 Being frisked can make you feel violated but they didn't unzip anything
Justified = 100/0 Didn't see anything that caused injury or not handled in a decent way
Punishment = 0/100 Cops didn't show me anything of real concern as a black man here. I don't think Koy should lose his scholarship, but some type of punishment and apology are in order.
Being black and knowing cops are present with potential encounter definitely makes you nervous no matter how much someone from a different background says you shouldn't be. However, this should've ended when Koy and his friend were free to go. Being pissed off that you are innocent and you feel that you haven't done anything wrong can absolutely leave you feeling violated because in your mind it was for nothing. I can see why the cops approached them initially when protection because they couldn't see Koy's hands.
There is definitely a history of unjust harassment or murder by cops, but to me this wasn't one of them. There are a lot of cases where the anger is justified, but this was one of the true incidents where nobody that was not there knew what actually happened and the tapes supported the cops more.
Fear= 50/50 It's easy to see why either would be scared
Truth= 100/0 Being frisked can make you feel violated but they didn't unzip anything
Justified = 100/0 Didn't see anything that caused injury or not handled in a decent way
Punishment = 0/100 Cops didn't show me anything of real concern as a black man here. I don't think Koy should lose his scholarship, but some type of punishment and apology are in order.
Being black and knowing cops are present with potential encounter definitely makes you nervous no matter how much someone from a different background says you shouldn't be. However, this should've ended when Koy and his friend were free to go. Being pissed off that you are innocent and you feel that you haven't done anything wrong can absolutely leave you feeling violated because in your mind it was for nothing. I can see why the cops approached them initially when protection because they couldn't see Koy's hands.
There is definitely a history of unjust harassment or murder by cops, but to me this wasn't one of them. There are a lot of cases where the anger is justified, but this was one of the true incidents where nobody that was not there knew what actually happened and the tapes supported the cops more.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:25 pm to Lester Earl
It means hiding behind cars when the cops come... maybe. Only one way to find out though right?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:26 pm to BallsEleven
quote:
So it’s the officers’ fault for investigating suspicious behavior? Not the 2 guys that were acting shady?
The cops created a situation where only Moore and the friend were at risk.
If they drive by nothing happens.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:26 pm to ell_13
quote:
The reprimand was for the language and language only.
Because it escalates situations
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:27 pm to The Pirate King
scared arse cops pulling guns on unarmed teenagers lol what’s new
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:They were called there and they some some guys trying to hide. That's not the cops' fault, man.
The cops created a situation
quote:Yes. If all cops ignored all shady behavior, nothing would ever go wrong. Let's just get rid of police departments, too while we're at it. No police departments means no one can get frisked when they don't think they should.
If they drive by nothing happens.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
If they drive by nothing happens.
And ignore suspicious behavior? Brilliant!
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to ell_13
quote:
It means hiding behind cars when the cops come... maybe. Only one way to find out though right?
Hiding behind a car gives a cop reasonable suspicion someone has a weapon?
Again, why were they called there? A frickin noise complaint? Jesus
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
The cops created a situation where only Moore and the friend were at risk.
If they drive by nothing happens.
The cops drove past and went by plenty of people, why do you think stopped to investigate a couple people hiding from them, then not responding to commands? This isnt difficult here.
And to be fair to both sides, they werent perfect, but acting like they should just ignore suspicious people who arent responding to commands is pretty dumb too.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:And the whole interaction lasted a couple minutes. Both sides left an went on their way. Big nothing burger.
All of this was over nothing.
Cops pulled their gun after Koy and his friend didn't listen, and Koy reached on his waistband to grab his phone.
When a cop tells to put my hands on the hood of the car, you don't reach for something. It's a pretty simple concept. Dave Chappelle did a whole video on it.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:28 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Because it escalates situations
and a quick frisk seemed to deescalate the situation. Yet here you are constantly bitching.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:29 pm to Lester Earl
quote:He would have been just as forceful without using the curse word and you'd still be complaining about escalation and racism.
Because it escalates situations
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:29 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
All of this was over nothing.
This was not known at the time.
Cops did everything right, other than the language used.
Page 13 of 43
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News