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Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10230 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:13 am to
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Mutual agreement. Things had gone stale for everyone.
gotta stop with this. He was running the program into the ground.

It didn’t matter that Nolan Cain was recruiting good players (got lucky with covid and injuries with the last batch). Paul was still putting Bianco in center and hitting Safford second.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4645 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:21 am to
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gotta stop with this. He was running the program into the ground.


I wouldn’t go that far. But he was pushed out. Omaha is equivalent to a trip to the Elite 8 in Basketball. Would a basketball Blue Blood like Kentucky or UNC be content with 3 trios to the Elite 8 in 11 years and “mutually part ways? No chance. Same applies in PM’s case.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10230 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:32 am to
Basketball is different. Calipari had been to 2 in the last 8 years prior to leaving for Arkansas.

Paul was pushed out of the program. Paul was extremely fortunate that the 2020 season was cancelled. That was going to be an all time bad LSU team. They were not making the tournament. Everything about LSU baseball had been trending, generally, in the wrong direction since the end of the 2017 season. From player meetings to coach change decisions. It was a cluster frick.

If you’re interested in seeing how he runs a program, google “Paul Mainieri South Carolina 247” and I’m sure the article about this past year at USC will pop up. I’m on mobile and can’t link at the moment. It’s astounding. I’m surprised he’s not out at USC after this year if 20% of it is true.

It was not a mutual decision. He was fired. LSU gave him a dignified way out and he took it. Trust me, they were prepared to do it the other way if they were required to.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:33 am to
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A small portion of our fanbase was calling him Ed O a few weeks ago

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They are all laying low or back to special ed classes for the summer.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22583 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:40 am to
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A small portion of our fanbase was calling him Ed O a few weeks ago


A few weeks ago? Probably in the 8th inning Wednesday
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
6253 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:43 am to
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I miss Riley Cooper


His country music career has really taken off.

2025 Tour Schedule
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10279 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:54 am to
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He’s one of the best active college coaches in America. Maybe the best.


The Rant:
FIRE JAY JOHNSON!!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79821 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:01 am to
"We lost to Northwestern st. by run rule. He's got to go. He doesn't have what it takes to win a championship, this team wont sniff Omaha!" - some rant posters in May
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24073 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:26 am to
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Hopefully you guys aren’t setting the bar at that point. If we are lucky enough to get two to three more would be an unbelievable accomplishment. Highly unlikely and near impossible to do nowadays


If he gets 2 in 4 years here especially in the current environment with college sports being a shite show there’s no reason to think that 6 total is off the table as an ultimate goal. Just one season at a time.

And yes expectations are that high because we had a coach get to 5 before. Alabama didn’t lower expectations after Bear. They got someone who equaled him in titles.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15381 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:39 am to
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And yes expectations are that high because we had a coach get to 5 before


There is absolutely no comparison to the college baseball (and college sports in general)- world then and now. With the parity in the SEC and across the entirety of the NCAA, the portal, NIL to a degree, the rising overall popularity of the sport nationwide- No, the expectations that Skip set for the program can in no way be matched currently. JJ has proven he’s got what it takes to make us a success at a high level. We should enjoy the ride. We’ll get to Omaha often enough but the landscape is vastly different and calls for a different level of expectations.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3471 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:06 am to
But he should be fired almost every year. LOLl
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2383 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:20 am to
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Well, that would take 6, which would put him past Skip. So, yeah, I'd say he'd make the cut.



Doing it in this era of college baseball would put him ahead of Skip even with the same amount of NC
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24073 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:23 am to
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here is absolutely no comparison to the college baseball (and college sports in general)- world then and now. With the parity in the SEC and across the entirety of the NCAA, the portal, NIL to a degree, the rising overall popularity of the sport nationwide- No, the expectations that Skip set for the program can in no way be matched currently. JJ has proven he’s got what it takes to make us a success at a high level. We should enjoy the ride. We’ll get to Omaha often enough but the landscape is vastly different and calls for a different level of expectations.


I’m saying if he can win 2 in 4 at his age and our resources there’s nothing stopping him from continuing. If he can do it this year he proves he can do it with more “average” talent. It could be argued 2023 happened because we had two of the best players ever in program history at the same time. That won’t ever happen again most likely. But winning with the average amount of talent LSU has in a typical year shows it’s no fluke.

I’m not saying he should be fired if he doesn’t win another natty. I’m just saying I think if he goes 2 in 4 suddenly 12 total titles is very attainable given his age.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:55 pm to
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quote:How can you not?


Took seasons to recover, that’s how


National Championship

And the greatest team in the history of college football

And the greatest season in the history of LSU football
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2647 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:49 pm to
My comment is more that people are using that to slander Jay. I understand and I think O to a certain degree understands that he had to go but what he did for us will never be forgotten and he will alway be a legend in my book.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47716 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:29 pm to
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And yes expectations are that high because we had a coach get to 5 before. Alabama didn’t lower expectations after Bear. They got someone who equaled him in titles.


They lucked into Saban - ask Rich Rod
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14280 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 2:40 am to
Make that 1-1 against Coastal jackass
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
4365 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:19 am to
Best all-around college baseball coach in America hands down! Since Skip.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35522 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:29 am to
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A small portion of our fanbase was calling him Ed O a few weeks ago


He was NEVER "Ed O" because he had success at another major program. But there was at least some reasonable basis to question if he was a truly great coach, or, to some degree, a byproduct of favorable circumstances. He took over a solid Arizona program with good players and immediately led them to the CWS championship series. After that, the results slid downward for the next 3 seasons. At LSU he had a great core in place to build on ahead of the 2023 season. Then, with much of that core gone, he struggled just to reach the NCAA Tournament last year.

That is all out of the window now and whatever previous doubts anyone had should be gone. It's "easier" at LSU than most places simply because no program puts more resources into baseball than LSU. But that has been the case for a LONG time and still between 2001 - 2022 LSU only won one National Championship. With two NCs in the trophy case in just 4 years he's unquesionably one of, maybe the best, HCs in the sport.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73630 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 5:17 pm to
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He was NEVER "Ed O" because he had success at another major program. But there was at least some reasonable basis to question if he was a truly great coach, or, to some degree, a byproduct of favorable circumstances. He took over a solid Arizona program with good players and immediately led them to the CWS championship series. After that, the results slid downward for the next 3 seasons. At LSU he had a great core in place to build on ahead of the 2023 season. Then, with much of that core gone, he struggled just to reach the NCAA Tournament last year.


I'm sorry still bs. Still had Arizona finish 1st in their conference 3 seasons atter taking them to the Championship. It's still Arizona.

His LSU team following the Championship was pretty inexperienced due to losing so many starters. They had a tough schedule, but turned it on when it mattered most and were a catch late in the game away from still hosting a favorable Super Regional. In a down year.

What he did his first season with no legit SEC caliber starting pitching was every bit as impressive than what he did in 23.

It annoys me greatly anyone tried to discredit what Jay did in 23 because he had great players. LSU does not win a Championship without the guys he also brought in. I have had to defend him against idiots wanting others coaches over him.


I can't believe anyone was worried about last season. I expected that given how many people left. They had like what? 1 returning every day batter return to the lineup?
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 5:19 pm
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