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re: Best QB First Start Performance in LSU History
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:05 am to CottonWasKing
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:05 am to CottonWasKing
He threw 46x and you can name one
Cmon
Cmon
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:13 am to GeauxTigers1410
Miami wasn't his first start. Flynn started against Iowa
in the Citrus bowl, looked terrible and only played a few series
in the Citrus bowl, looked terrible and only played a few series
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
I named two off the top of my head from a game I watched 5 days ago.
This isn’t nearly the gotcha moment you where hoping for especially considering I never once said Myles was anything more than ok with a lot of potential for improvement.
This isn’t nearly the gotcha moment you where hoping for especially considering I never once said Myles was anything more than ok with a lot of potential for improvement.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:32 am to LSUdude247
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You seriously can't tell me you watched that game and thought he did good?
For a first time started he did well.
If state would have score 20 points, you'd be shouting his praises.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:40 am to TigerDM
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:01 pm to CottonWasKing
I’m not trying to get ya I’m legitimately asking which of those 46 throws were great cause I didn’t see em
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:23 pm to Hot Carl
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350 with 3 touchdowns like he did
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Brennan fricking sucked

Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:33 pm to CottonWasKing
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He got his arm hit on one and the other was a Hail Mary to end the game.
His arm does get hit, but the ball should have been in the air before pressure got to him. This was not some freak bad luck interception. His throw/delivery is way too long and that's what causes the interception (Besides the offensive line just allowing outside pressure every damn play.) Brennan is in the pocket, then once Racey is open, he dips the ball, winds up/crow hops, and releases.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:35 pm to LSUdude247
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You seriously can't tell me you watched that game and thought he did good?
He also didn’t do as bad as some people on this board are saying he did. His first quarter was absolutely atrocious but the rest of the game he was ok to above average.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:40 pm to mtsu
Ryan Perrilloux (freshman) 2007 La Tech
298 yards 3 TDs 1 INT, 37 yards rushing
Matt Flynn 2005 beat #10 Miami 40-3
196 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs, 39 yards rushing
Herb Tyler (freshman) 1995 beat North Texas 49-7
208 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs, 10 rushing yards 1 TD
Danny Etling 2016 beat Miss State 23-20
213 yards 1 TD 0 INTs, 23 rushing yards
Tommy Hodson (freshman) 1986 beat #7 Texas A&M 35-17
193 yards 2 TDs
Look, Brennan's statline in vacuum looked great and it's easy to say his first INT he had his arm hit by a defender and his 2nd was a hail mary. However, anyone who watched that game could see he did not have control of the offense. It wasn't all his fault as the line did a poor job, the backs couldn't get the running game open, and the receivers dropped some passes. However, to try to argue that because it was his first start (in his 4th year in the pogram) and no one else has thrown for that many yards that it was somehow a good game for him is just dishonest. He threw 46 passes, the 5th most in a game in LSU history. Burrow did that last year once...against Clemson and threw for 463 yards and 4 TDs with no picks. Offenses are completely different now, so pulling out a total yardage stat doesn't mean the same thing across different eras.
That all said, it wasn't his fault we lost the game either. It took most our team not doing their jobs for that to happen.
298 yards 3 TDs 1 INT, 37 yards rushing
Matt Flynn 2005 beat #10 Miami 40-3
196 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs, 39 yards rushing
Herb Tyler (freshman) 1995 beat North Texas 49-7
208 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs, 10 rushing yards 1 TD
Danny Etling 2016 beat Miss State 23-20
213 yards 1 TD 0 INTs, 23 rushing yards
Tommy Hodson (freshman) 1986 beat #7 Texas A&M 35-17
193 yards 2 TDs
Look, Brennan's statline in vacuum looked great and it's easy to say his first INT he had his arm hit by a defender and his 2nd was a hail mary. However, anyone who watched that game could see he did not have control of the offense. It wasn't all his fault as the line did a poor job, the backs couldn't get the running game open, and the receivers dropped some passes. However, to try to argue that because it was his first start (in his 4th year in the pogram) and no one else has thrown for that many yards that it was somehow a good game for him is just dishonest. He threw 46 passes, the 5th most in a game in LSU history. Burrow did that last year once...against Clemson and threw for 463 yards and 4 TDs with no picks. Offenses are completely different now, so pulling out a total yardage stat doesn't mean the same thing across different eras.
That all said, it wasn't his fault we lost the game either. It took most our team not doing their jobs for that to happen.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 10/1/20 at 1:23 pm to lsufball19
Arkansas was not Davey’s first start. They got destroyed by Auburn at home earlier that year and Davey played horrible. He started that game. Not sure if that was the first start.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/1/20 at 2:07 pm to GeauxTigers1410
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Arkansas was not Davey’s first start. They got destroyed by Auburn at home earlier that year and Davey played horrible. He started that game. Not sure if that was the first start.
I guess I always assumed Booty started that game given he still holds the LSU attempts record that game, throwing 58 passes. It was so long ago (and not a game to want to remember) that I guess it has escaped me that Davey actually started.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 2:12 pm to lsufball19
Ha. It’s not worth remembering. Davey played one of the worst halves I’ve ever seen an LSU QB play.
Anyone who wants to see some horrible football from a Tiger who ended up being great, go watch the start of the LSUAuburn 1999 game.
Anyone who wants to see some horrible football from a Tiger who ended up being great, go watch the start of the LSUAuburn 1999 game.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/1/20 at 2:28 pm to tadelatt
Hodson was outstanding for a young QB.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 2:53 pm to CottonWasKing
The answer to your OP is nobody. It’s the best first start individually for an LSU QB. All these other guys people are comparing aren’t close in yardage and only 1 had the TDs to match. These “vacuum” fans also won’t acknowledge that he would’ve had 400 yards and 4TDs if his Oline could’ve protected him for just one more play when Mcmath was wide open down the sideline and he got hit for the Int, so they’re full of shite. None of the other QBs mentioned had defenses who gave up 44 points and everyone of them played on elite loaded rosters. Brennan was fine and he’ll get better, just appreciate him because QBs are gonna quit coming if the fans keep pulling this bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:37 pm to Madking
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aren’t close in yardage
Lol @ you for using the yardage stat as standard for measuring a QB's performance.
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These “vacuum” fans also won’t acknowledge that he would’ve had 400 yards and 4TDs if his Oline could’ve protected him for just one more play when Mcmath was wide open down the sideline and he got hit for the Int
It's a shame you are too retarded to understand that those O-Line issues were due to the fact that Brennan struggled reading the defense presnap (it's his responsibility to read the defense presnap & adjust the protections) as well as his panicky demeanor, indecisive decision making & poor pocket awareness caused a large majority of those "pressures". Also, he should have thrown for 500-600 yards & 6 TDs if he makes the basic reads in the offensive scheme.
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None of the other QBs mentioned had defenses who gave up 44 points
None of those other QBs played in an offensive philosophy that would allow them to have 47 attempts in a single game.
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QBs are gonna quit coming if the fans keep pulling this bullshite.
Lol No, QBs recruits are going to see on film the ability to make big plays in this offensive philosophy & the opportunity to throw to talented play makers & line up in flocks to come to LSU.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:48 pm to Hot Carl
No Brandon Harris sucked.. Anthony Jennings sucked. Myles at one point once the drops e
Stopped and they got the running game going he was 8 of 10 for 180 yards w 2 score. If his arm doesn’t get hit he gets another TD. But he’s he was late on that throw and others all day but He was 8-9 off of play action. Like Rohan said.. first start in that offense w covid.. plenty of room to grow.
Stopped and they got the running game going he was 8 of 10 for 180 yards w 2 score. If his arm doesn’t get hit he gets another TD. But he’s he was late on that throw and others all day but He was 8-9 off of play action. Like Rohan said.. first start in that offense w covid.. plenty of room to grow.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:59 pm to mtsu
Now go back and watch all the games and count how many open receivers each one not only missed, but didn’t even see.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 5:28 pm to CottonWasKing
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You watched a game where a qb in his first start threw for ~350 yards with 3 touchdowns AND DIDNT HAVE A GREAT DAY and you aren’t excited about his potential?!?
I’m with you on this. At the end of the day, I think many on this board fall into one of two camps: they either think Brennan will continue to get better, or they don’t. If you think he’s going to improve, you feel pretty good because Saturday’s performance is likely his floor. I don’t necessarily mean a statistical floor, but a floor in the sense that his reads, timing, etc. should get better.
Personally, I think all the talk about how it’s worse because he’s been in the system for four years is a little overhyped. Yes, he’s been at LSU for four years. But he’s only been in this system for one year, and he wasn’t competing for the starting job at that point. Still, it’s fair to criticize the apparent lack of preparedness.
My thing is I’m not sure it was a lack of preparedness. Rather, I think (hope) it was more first game jitters. Yeah, he got some PT last year. And yeah, it was at least in front of a crowd. But playing in the 4th quarter of a game that’s already been won is not the same as starting, much less starting against an SEC team.
Some will take this to mean that Myles doesn’t have what it takes. But I would expect him to become more comfortable and confident each week. If he doesn’t show improvement the next two weeks, that’s when I’ll be worried.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:12 pm to mtsu
64 years of following LSU football on the radio and live. Tommy Hodson had the best overall 4 years of any quarterback in LSU history. Burrow was great for 1 year and good for another. Replace him with Hodson and I believe we see damn near the same results. In this offense with his mobility, he would have been brilliant.
As far as first start games, Hodson had a great first start as a redshirt freshman. However, as a junior Ryan Perriloux in that first start was simply outstanding considering the magnitude of that game. He could have been great! He also was a reason why football suffered for as long as it did due to lack of continuity when he was released.
As far as first start games, Hodson had a great first start as a redshirt freshman. However, as a junior Ryan Perriloux in that first start was simply outstanding considering the magnitude of that game. He could have been great! He also was a reason why football suffered for as long as it did due to lack of continuity when he was released.
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