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re: Best QB First Start Performance in LSU History
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:02 pm to GeauxTigers1410
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:02 pm to GeauxTigers1410
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Matt Flynn against Miami 2005
Flynn started in the Citrus Bowl at the end of the 2004 season, and it didn't go well.
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:23 pm to CottonWasKing
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Well he’s on pace for that number and here everyone is comparing him to Burrow.
I’m not comparing him to Burrow. But I watched the game and despite his numbers he did not play very well.
Had he really played well he would have had well over 400 yards passing, at least one more TD and we would have won.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to be objective and admit that he looked lost, scared and indecisive....and that is not good for a QB.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:31 pm to CottonWasKing
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Every single one of those quarterbacks played within an offensive philosophy that kept them from excelling. Myles doesn’t.
Yet Myles still showed a lack of composure in the pocket, made numerous bad reads, panicked because of those bad reads & made several inaccurate throws with an offensive scheme/plan designed for him to excel in. That's the big difference & why so many are already worried.
Those of us who actually have studied & followed the game of football closely for a very long time, understand that those issues are not very good to have for a quarterback to have especially for a guy like Brennan who has more than enough mental preparation for his first career start.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:47 pm to memphis tiger
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I’m not comparing him to Burrow. But I watched the game and despite his numbers he did not play very well.
Pretty sure I said in my first post that he didn’t play well and why that’s a cause for optimism.
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I don’t know why it’s so hard to be objective and admit that he looked lost, scared and indecisive....
Now I know for sure that I mentioned this in my second post.
Every fault that Brennan showed CAN be fixed with experience. Will it? No idea, I’m not his coach.
You also have no idea that it won’t be fixed. So how about trying to pick the kid up a little instead of anointing his replacement after one start.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:49 pm to BigBrod81
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Those of us who actually have studied & followed the game of football closely for a very long time
Ohhhh look at the big dick on this guy! He has STUDIED the game of football. I bet you rewatch the broadcast and tell your buddies they need to watch the tape don’t ya?
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:06 am to mtsu
Brennan's QBR quarterback rating was a paltry 32.2 tied for second to last in the SEC. Their metric calculated that his performance was 4.8 points below what an average quarterback would have done.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:06 am to memphis tiger
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I don’t know why it’s so hard to be objective and admit that he looked lost, scared and indecisive....and that is not good for a QB.
Some people are born with ice water flowing through their veins. Others aren't. It's as simple as that. A QB can have the strongest arm, great footwork & have prototypical size but they cannot dissect information & react quickly based off that information, all those other fancy tools go to waste.
Trent Dilfer now openly talks about his failures over his NFL career. One of the things, he has talked about is how he could master an offensive scheme in preseason or game plan in the film room of game week. He had all the information memorized & knew exactly what calls needed to be made with this formation vs that defensive look.
Dilfer said he easily took that information & translated it to the practice field. But then game day would come & he would freeze. His fear of failure would cause him to have mental lapses which caused him not to be able apply everything he had learned into his play on game day.
I think this happens with a lot of QBs. More than the average fan even realizes and after seeing Brennan actions this past Saturday, my fear is that Myles is one of those QBs.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 12:20 am
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:10 am to CottonWasKing
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Ohhhh look at the big dick on this guy! He has STUDIED the game of football. I bet you rewatch the broadcast and tell your buddies they need to watch the tape don’t ya?
No one says you have to strive to watch, read or hear every piece of information to be a "good" fan. Some of us have a thirst for knowledge while others simply want more of an understanding of what they are watching on game days. I'm sorry that upsets you so much.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 12:17 am
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:14 am to mtsu
So many first starts were against shitty opponents.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:14 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Brennan's QBR quarterback rating was a paltry 32.2 tied for second to last in the SEC. Their metric calculated that his performance was 4.8 points below what an average quarterback would have done.
His 58.7 completion percentage in an offensive scheme that allows easy completions with a lot hot routes/reads, outlets & checkdown opportunities, was not good either.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 2:01 am to memphis tiger
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Had he really played well he would have had well over 400 yards passing, at least one more TD and we would have won
I feel like we would have won if myles brennan's shitty arse hadn't given up 600 yards of offense to Abbott and Costello
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:49 am to mtsu
His stats look good, but he didn't play good. On the other hand if our defense could've gotten off the field on 3rd down we would've won the game.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 5:05 am to abellsujr
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Most people are not saying he needs to hit the road already
Posted on 10/1/20 at 5:44 am to NoGeaux
Performance in LSU History by NoGeaux
“Stats? Let’s talk wins and losses”
Ok let’s talk wins and losses. We would not have lost the game had the defense not given up 44 points because Brennan in all of his supposed horribleness still put up 27 points.
“Stats? Let’s talk wins and losses”
Ok let’s talk wins and losses. We would not have lost the game had the defense not given up 44 points because Brennan in all of his supposed horribleness still put up 27 points.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:14 am to CottonWasKing
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You watched a game where a qb in his first start threw for ~350 yards with 3 touchdowns AND DIDNT HAVE A GREAT DAY and you aren’t excited about his potential?!? frickING HOW?
That is without a running game and no defense.
Imagine, if the defense had made a couple of stops and given him the ball a couple more times with a lead.
Myles can't do it all.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:45 am to LSUdude247
I didn’t say he was great. Just the best first start performance for an LSU QB. He has to build confidence, find his open receiver and release the ball quicker. He will get thee. Also more play action since he was 8 for 9 with 2 TD’s from play action.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:45 am to mtsu
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Name one QB that with better stats than Brennan after a first time start?
He was terrible, period. For a guy that has been in the system for 3 years now, he was awful. Ive never seen so many missed wide open receivers.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:03 am to Hot Carl
quote:Yes you sound very objective.
Brennan fricking sucked. I’m sorry, he just did. If you watched that game with any ounce of objectivity you saw it. I’m
I saw him do a lot of things well, and a lot of things poorly. All in all it wasn’t a bad first start. Not bad enough to say “he fricking sucked” but what do I know? I didn’t see it objectively like you apparently did
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:06 am to More&Les
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I feel like we would have won if myles brennan's shitty arse hadn't given up 600 yards of offense to Abbott and Costello
This is stupid. This isn’t about the shitty defense.
As bad as the defense was, and it was historically bad, LSU still would have won if Brennan had been better.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:07 am to themunch
Most posts I see are people saying they have little hope he will turn out to be a good QB. I don’t think I’ve seen any that say he needs to be benched rn. I’m sure they exist, but I’m talking about the majority.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 8:09 am
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