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re: A QB "going through progressions" is old methodology. Tua doesn't do it.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:38 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:38 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Dwayne Haskins and Tua will be Marcus Mariota and Jamieis Winston in the NFL.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:10 pm
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:10 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Canada please come back
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:16 am to Buckeye Jeaux
You think the LSU QB goes through progressions when the primary target is open? 
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:16 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Most of the time they do not. Progressions are "plan B".
...as opposed to?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:20 am to Buckeye Jeaux
‘Tua made a sandwich on three of his drops. Took a nap on the rest
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
It’s almost like Steve hasn’t been an offensive coordinator in 20 years......
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:31 am to cj2002
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locking on to your 1st choice will cause a lot more interceptions, and broken up passes.
you people are living in 1995
you probably are also someone who said the very offense Bama runs would never win anything in the SEC
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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you probably are also someone who said the very offense Bama runs would never win anything in the SEC
Ironically, that argument was used twice at Florida, first with Spurrier and later with Meyer.
Nick Saban is running a full-blown spread offense right now, while LSU has regressed to a 1990's 'under center' offense.
Grab a playbook from Marv Levy if you want to go old school, just do something that will work with the passing game FFS.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:50 am to beauxroux
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You think the LSU QB goes through progressions when the primary target is open?
Yes.
The old method is to survey the D and all the receivers and choose the best option. Tua/Haskins/others are firing fast to the primary (unless solidly covered).
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:54 am to elprez00
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It’s almost like Steve hasn’t been an offensive coordinator in 20 years......
Closer to 40 than 20. The old dog needs some new tricks.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:08 am to RuLSU
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Ironically, that argument was used twice at Florida, first with Spurrier and later with Meyer.
Spurrier is before my time but i 100% was arguing on here Meyer's offense was going to do fine in the SEC
the same rantards who said he wouldn't do anything are the ones who said the traditional spread wouldn't work, either
i legit do not understand their mentality
Bama keeps being progressive and proving them wrong and they maintain the same arguments from the 90s about offense
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:14 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
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Haskins
Have you conceded to the fact Haskins is indeed better that Burrow? Last time I heard from you, you stated time will show that you were right in your opinion Burrow is better than Haskins. Well some time has passed and I want to know has your opinion changed?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:18 am to cj2002
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he exception was LSU, that's why Bama didn't have 28 points in the 1st quarter as they did in 5 of their other games.
Oh shite!!! Here comes the gumps to tell you how he could have if he wanted to or how we were always throwing their receivers down while they were running their routes.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:36 am to Eriq Killmonger
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Have you conceded to the fact Haskins is indeed better that Burrow? Last time I heard from you, you stated time will show that you were right in your opinion Burrow is better than Haskins. Well some time has passed and I want to know has your opinion changed?
Haskins has a light-years better receiving corps. 5 or more will be drafted. And a much better passing scheme from Wilson/Day. And I think Haskins/Burrow are about equal in passing ability. Haskins throws all fastballs, and Burrow throws with touch. I give the edge to Burrow on field decisions and rushing.
And I really thought Burrow's WR's would get in sync, but they haven't. They are not elite level WR's. No two ways about it. Below average, at best.
Put Haskins in this O with these WR's and the results would be about equal, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 8:43 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:42 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Kevin Wilson (Bradshaw at Oklahoma, Haskins at OSU) is one of the architects of this method. It discards the pre-snap read. Flips the QB reacting to the D, to the D reacting to the QB. A big part of the method is getting the snap off as soon as possible after the QB reads the sideline signals.
So what you're saying is that the coach is calling the pre snap read instead of the QB. If the read is not available then the QB goes through progressions. Got it.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:49 am to Macavity92
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So what you're saying is that the coach is calling the pre snap read instead of the QB. If the read is not available then the QB goes through progressions. Got it.
Nope. Not saying that at all. I'm saying on most (not all) pass plays, Tua gets the call from the sideline, and the primary receiver is locked in. (no hopping around to see if another WR is more open)
So, it is take the snap and fire it. They're not dependent on how the D alligns. There can almost always be separation if the QB & WR don't hesitate.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Nope. Not saying that at all. I'm saying on most (not all) pass plays, Tua gets the call from the sideline, and the primary receiver is locked in. (no hopping around to see if another WR is more open) So, it is take the snap and fire it. They're not dependent on how the D alligns. There can almost always be separation if the QB & WR don't hesitate.
Don't know if you watched the game, or any Bama games this year, but several times Tua held on to the ball for more than 2 seconds. Is this what you consider quick? If not, what was he doing back there, math homework?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:03 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:dude, that's the DEFINITION of progessions - it's what the QB does when the primary receiver is covered.
Most of the time they do not. Progressions are "plan B".
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:04 am to Macavity92
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Don't know if you watched the game, or any Bama games this year, but several times Tua held on to the ball for more than 2 seconds. Is this what you consider quick? If not, what was he doing back there, math homework?
I'd say Tua held on to it more than just a couple. Either because the primary WR was too well covered, or because Tua was running a delay screen (which he did about as well as any QB ever has)
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:14 am to atltiger6487
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dude, that's the DEFINITION of progessions - it's what the QB does when the primary receiver is covered.
Dude, Some old school OC's make QB's look at all other WR's before throwing to the primary. These are OC's that hate being second-guessed when some second or third-choice WR is shown on TV to be wide-open for a long gainer - when the QB throws the to the short route instead.
You have to give something to get something. The primary may well NOT be the most open for the most yards. But he will almost always be the highest percentage completion. And quick shots cut sacks & tipped passes more than in half.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:17 am
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