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A QB "going through progressions" is old methodology. Tua doesn't do it.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 5:59 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 5:59 am
Haskins doesn't do it either. Most top college passing programs have dropped that mess.
They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.
Ensminger has Burrow stalled (on every pass play) with a method older than E is. Get rid of the damn ball! Screw the progressions! Elite 2018 QB's make the defense react to them - not the other way around.
They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.
Ensminger has Burrow stalled (on every pass play) with a method older than E is. Get rid of the damn ball! Screw the progressions! Elite 2018 QB's make the defense react to them - not the other way around.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:01 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:01 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I think this is true. But not every good or good enough QB is a Tua.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:03 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Yea there is something not right with this offense. It look horrible for most of the season. Mr Burrow didn’t handle pressure well. It looked like a les miles defense to me. Coach O was wrong for throwing the players under the bus. He picked a third string reject to be qb
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:05 am to JawjaTigah
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I think this is true. But not every good or good enough QB is a Tua.
True. But all QB's play better if they get rid if the ball before the D-Line is hanging off of them.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:07 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.
So... they do go through progressions?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:11 am to Ash Williams
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So... they do go through progressions?
Most of the time they do not. Progressions are "plan B".
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:11 am to JawjaTigah
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I think this is true. But not every good or good enough QB is a Tua.
If they can’t read a defense pre snap and pick out a primary then they aren’t going to have the talent to figure it out live going through progressions
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:12 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.
Man, is that how progressions work?!?
Don’t be niaeve. He doesn’t have him going 1,2,3 back to 1. You can bash E for a lot of things with this game, and the offense all season really, but that’s not one of them.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:13 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:12 am to Buckeye Jeaux
If you want to succeed in the NFL, which is the goal of every college QB, you better be able to go through your progressions. Pre-snap read is important but that read is no always right.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:13 am to Buckeye Jeaux
In other words,
Scheme
Scheme
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:14 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.
So, your contention is that, in the "old days", the QB didn't have a set place to start his progressions? He just started looking around, willy nilly?
Dude, what you described is how it's always been done.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:15 am to Strannix
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If they can’t read a defense pre snap and pick out a primary then they aren’t going to have the talent to figure it out live going through progressions
That's old school. The new method is to throw quick-hitters regardless of the D's formation. And it is part of the hurry-up offense. Make the D react to the O. Not the QB react to the D.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:17 am to Buckeye Jeaux
This is BS, locking on to your 1st choice will cause a lot more interceptions, and broken up passes.
As far as Bama is concerned, Their WR's get great separation because they are elite, allowing Tua to make easy throws.
The exception was LSU, that's why Bama didn't have 28 points in the 1st quarter as they did in 5 of their other games.
As far as Bama is concerned, Their WR's get great separation because they are elite, allowing Tua to make easy throws.
The exception was LSU, that's why Bama didn't have 28 points in the 1st quarter as they did in 5 of their other games.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:19 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Tua said in an interview he throws according to his read not predetermined man to throw to.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:21 am to themunch
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Tua said in an interview he throws according to his read not predetermined man to throw to.
I don't doubt he said that to the press, but that is not what he does. He's not surveying the field unless the quick-hit target is covered.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:23 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:22 am to Buckeye Jeaux
He was breaking down plays for goodness sakes.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:31 am to 1984Tiger
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Pre-snap read is important but that read is no always right.
Kevin Wilson (Bradshaw at Oklahoma, Haskins at OSU) is one of the architects of this method. It discards the pre-snap read. Flips the QB reacting to the D, to the D reacting to the QB.
A big part of the method is getting the snap off as soon as possible after the QB reads the sideline signals.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:34 am to Buckeye Jeaux
This sounds like run the play called by the sideline. Nothing to do with anything else. Much like high school football.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:34 am to themunch
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He was breaking down plays for goodness sakes.
I'm sure Saban said, "Now Tua, when you go on TV, make sure you tell the interviewer exactly how we scheme things."
quote:Wrongo Bongo. I see your a real student of the ins an outs of the hurry-up offense. LOL
This sounds like run the play called by the sideline. Nothing to do with anything else. Much like high school football.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:38 am
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