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re: A QB "going through progressions" is old methodology. Tua doesn't do it.

Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3008 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:43 pm to
When Bama played man coverage there were not too many receivers with separation. Jefferson did a good job when Bama was in zone of finding dead spots, but overall Burrow did not have many good windows to throw into, and did not have much time to find them.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12041 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:47 pm to
You are correct. However, Good quarterbacks don't take the ball and stare down his primary receiver. I'm not saying Burrow does that. I haven't studied any game films.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30830 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:14 pm to
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They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.


Which is the exact definition of going through progressions, is it not?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:15 pm to
Apparently you do not know what going through progressions means. All top QBs go through progressions. Some do it quicker than you can see, but they all do it.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:45 pm to
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Apparently you do not know what going through progressions means


Yeah. I do. And so does Gary Danielson.

Danielson said the exact same thing in the broadcast of the LSU/Bama game. Danielson said that TUA isn't going thru progressions on most pass plays - that his target is 100% decided BEFORE the snap.

I know, few people like Danielson's homer commentary (me included). But the guy knows his shite. 13 years as an NFL QB gives Danielson more depth of QB knowledge than any random poster on the Rant - 1000's of times more (this may come as a shock to a few of the most clueless posters)

Not going thru progressions is "football heresy", right?. But it is working. Kinda like when everybody laughed out loud at Meyer's Spread O when he arrived at Florida. Now most programs run it - including Bama.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36228 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:18 pm to
Etling had a better cast around him than Burrow does, and it's not close.

Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:05 pm to
These dudes don’t know what they are talking about, you are correct. Steve E is a fricking dinosaur and LSUs offense will never take that next step with him running it.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76569 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:07 pm to
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In other words,

Scheme



No way man, we just need an NFL QB, WRs, RB, OL...and then we can score 17 pts like in 2013!
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76569 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:09 pm to
Yeah I think Burrow could be good. But LSU has proven to be a QB graveyard.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44021 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

A QB "going through progressions" is old methodology. Tua doesn't do it.


quote:

They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.




In a thread about how QBs do things differently these days you make a point that illustrates how they do things exactly the same way these days.

Nice.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:14 pm to
Stupid comment
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:20 pm to
You almost have it. He makes his read before the snap and decides where he is going. That’s why Asshat GD said he can’t do this shite in pros.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:35 pm to
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So... they do go through progressions?

Congratulations Ash Williams, step on down here for your prize. Three guest contestants missed the puzzle answer before you finally hit the nail on the head.

...meanwhile three ponder what they missed about a statement..."Well if the primary receiver is covered, then they go through the progressions"...Shazzzzamm!
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:36 pm to
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If Saban can adapt why can't LSU

You must be buckin' for a prize too.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

He makes his read before the snap and decides where he is going. That’s why Asshat GD said he can’t do this shite in pros.

No. The target is chosen before that. And too many pre-snap "reads" are based on phony decoy D alignments that shift on the snap.

So it comes down to this in the Kevin Wilson up-tempo O:
What's more important?

1) Reading the D secondary pre-snap and thru progression.
OR
2) Snap the ball before the D calls their plays, and hit the WR chosen on the sideline without hesitating for progressions.

Cooach E has Burrow standing around looking for the perfect wide-open WR. Perfect is the enemy of good.

And I know Burrow can take the snap and deliver a bullseye in one motion. I've seen him do it hundred times.

This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:49 pm to
Oh great so we can be the #4 seed and lose to #1 Alabama 49-0 this time in the playoff.



No thanks.
Posted by BigDaddy5151
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2013
584 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:49 pm to
Rewatched the game. This was the biggest problem. Burrow held the ball too long. I'm a Burrow fan but he must throw the ball on time!
Posted by docsoloman1
Member since Nov 2018
8 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:49 pm to
IMO, progression is not something you want to do. You read the defense, and either go with your play or check off. If your primary is covered, or protection breaks down, then you progress to secondary, safety valve, or pull it down. Mind you, all this happens in just a few seconds. Crazy.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Rewatched the game. This was the biggest problem. Burrow held the ball too long. I'm a Burrow fan but he must throw the ball on time!
Exactly. And Burrow is being coached to scan all WR's before the throw.

It ain't working.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:55 pm to
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Exactly. And Burrow is being coached to scan all WR's before the throw.


You’re so full of shite it’s unvelievable. No offensive coach in the history of football at any level has ever told the quarterback they have to look at all 5 eligible receivers before deciding which one to throw to.

That’s what your stupid arse is arguing in this thread, to attempt to compensate for the fact that joe burrow is an average quarterback.
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