re: A nice Trip Down Memory Lane or How I Barely Survived Being Excoriated by SFP...

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oh no i laugh when people bring up Saban's early years at LSU and compare it to Miles 05-07 or O 17-19. just not comparable

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Oh I give Saban his due and he is the GOAT. But the bottom line is this: The greatest season in LSU history, the greatest season in CFB history was delivered by Edward Oregon and no matter how much it pains you, no matter how much you try to explain it away, it's still a fact.

I was not a big O fan in the beginning. I thought Jimbo was our best option. My vision changed. And I'm Ok with that.

It’s the same shitty excuse that was thrown at Auburn for landing Cam Newton or Texas for landing Vince Young.

Great recruiters get these kid to their schools. Instead of acknowledging that, some fans bash it and just say a school got lucky.

It’s pathetic that fans are dumb enough to rest on that shitty reason.

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Great recruiters get these kid to their schools. Instead of acknowledging that, some fans bash it and just say a school got lucky.

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That's become the trend. 3/4 CFP teams had transfer QBs.

Ohio St was so confident in their heir apparent, Heisman ready QB that they went out and got Fields.

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1 I love how you guys always escape praise for landing burrow like it was some automatic thing.

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it's not that, it's just the quality of QB on the market

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2ndly, you say “just how rare it was”..,.well really, it’s not all that rare anymore to piggy back off of a transfer. Oklahoma has done it multiple times & reached the CFB playoffs. Ohio state, Florida state, Auburn have all dipped.

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OU does (i referenced it earlier)

OSU got a true sophomore. not comparable to a ready-made 4th year guy who was developed

Auburn recruited a JUCO. not comparable at all. that's like Mett

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If you recall, Brennan decommited after Miles was fired & had to be re-recruited

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because we went after Tua

IT'S ALL COME FULL CIRCLE

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You think Vince was a transfer?

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Where did I say he transfer? I said Texas ‘landed’ him. Auburn ‘landed’ Cam. One was a transfer, one was from Madison HS in Houston.

The point is, fans point to star players and make a comment that a program ONLY won because of that guy. They were lucky, etc.

Believe me, I heard that plenty in Texas when VY was Superman. I think we heard it a bunch about Tebow.

Recruiters win future games. It’s simple.

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O simply does not have the brainpower to make LSU an elite program (esp since we're in the SEC West)

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WE know someone else who doesn't have the brainpower to not make a fool of himself.
SFP, stay in your lane bro. ;)

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if you don't think having an already-developed QB

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Why do you keep saying this when lots of evidence exists to the contrary. Joe had a developed work ethic but was not a completely developed player in 2017 when he entered the transfer portal. He had been injured and had not played meaningful snaps in 3 years.

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Joe had a developed work ethic but was not a completely developed player in 2017 when he entered the transfer portal.

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He definitely tweaked his throwing motion. I forgot if it was printed or in an interview, but he was holding his off arm too far away from his body in 2018 and tightened it up going into 2019.

Yeah it's probably fair to say that LSU was lucky that he was available at a time of need. But, you still have to go get him and that's not luck. That's Orgeron's specialty.

I just assumed he would say something reasonable like "yeah, I was a little panicky" or "yeah, I got it wrong when I went Defcon 1 on day one" or "yeah it's not very intelligent to pretend I can predict outcomes accurately". But it's SFP. He will just change the topic and create new ever-changing arguments that can never honestly be resolved. I'm convinced he doesn't even realize he's doing it. It's a character flaw, a blind spot. And I say that gladly admitting he's an ALL TIME HOF poster.

This thread also taught me that there is still a faction of LSU fans that feels like O can not and will not sustain the program with his CEO/Dabo approach to program -building. The Cult of Saban is very fervent. As is the Louisiana Cult of self-loathing (definitely NOT a problem for SFP) lol. Pessimistic people will continue to be pessimistic and optimistic people will continue to be optimistic. Some people will pre-melt, some people will perma-melt and others will never melt.